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  •  Much ado... (none)
    about the inevitable.

    Humans are setting up for wide-scale pandemic.  It doesn't have to come in the form of bird-flu, but it will happen.  Vaccinations and culling the carriers only postpone the inevitability of a killer disease mutating from existing strains.  Stronger resistance to anti-biotics is a fact.  Vaccine immunity is a fact as well.

    The way we manipulate the natural order via vaccines and anti-biotics means that our species must increasingly rely on these vaccines and anti-biotics.  This is bad for our future as a species since we're breeding out natural immunities.  We're setting up for an eventual and major death-toll by avoiding individual deaths now.

    •  Eh... (none)
      You do know, that there were epidemic diseases with huge death tolls even before vaccinations and antibiotics existed, do you? Like.. well, lets say influenza? Or Black Death, or any plague? Or smallpox? Natural immunities did not help people much then. And on top of that, people kept dying of diseases nowadays easily cured by antibiotics, or prevented by vaccination.
      •  stop that (none)
        just lay down and die like you're supposed to.

        "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho Marx

        by Greg Dworkin on Fri Feb 24, 2006 at 05:10:00 AM PST

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      •  So you're saying... (none)
        that people who survive plagues won't pass on their genes to the next generation?  Basically that no one was able to recover from these onslaughts... The fact that we're typing this right now proves that there are subtle genetic differences in people that allow them immunity and resistance to diseases.  What we're doing is postponing the inevitable - there will be a culling of something, but it won't be birds.

        Overuse and dependance on medicine is weakening the human race, not strengthening.  From an evolutionary standpoint we are breeding weaker and weaker offspring because the natural afflictions are not allowed to inflict their damage.  That's the idea behind natural selection - that those individuals capable of surviving naturally pass those genes on.  

        I would much rather have evolutionary dead ends wiped out than to see natural immunities wiped out via interbreeding, that's setting up for disaster and hypothetically extinction.  Long-term use of vaccines and anti-biotics is detrimental to us.  We should give it up.  That's all I'm saying here.

        •  whiule there's truth in some of this (4.00)
          (routinely feeding antibiotics to animals, etc), I suspect much of this is extreme thinking not likely to be adopted. Giving up childhood vaccines is not going to happen. Eradicating polio and smapplox is agood thing.

          Learn to adapt to the modern world, or you'll be the evolutionary dead end, my frined.

          "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho Marx

          by Greg Dworkin on Fri Feb 24, 2006 at 05:37:25 AM PST

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          •  man that is just godawful typing n/t (none)

            "Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." - Groucho Marx

            by Greg Dworkin on Fri Feb 24, 2006 at 05:38:03 AM PST

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