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  •  Disagree.... (none)
    If the Rumsfeld-Wolfowicz cabal in the Pentagon could send Bush out on Mission Accomplished, it highly unlikely that they expected an insurrection or predicted the catastrophe that Iraq is today. When Bush announced mission accomplished, I believe he was totally oblivious that we had slipped into a Neoconservative foreign policy, as he likely never even heard of the term until later. Since that announcement, Rumsfeld has taken so much heat for his incompetence and the numerous American and Iraqi lives it has cost, that I cannot believe that some ulterior plan, the mother of all plans, was in play. That is a conspiracy theory only the best British spy novelist could even come close to trumping.
    •  maybe, but (none)
      you'd have to admit, even if they didn't outright PLAN for a civil war, they sure are adept at figuring out how to use it to thier advantage. Tin-foil conspiracies aside, the neocons always seem to see every tragedy, every "unforseen" blight, as an opportunity.

      When you're going through hell, keep going. -- Winston Churchill

      by valleycat on Fri Feb 24, 2006 at 10:15:36 AM PST

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      •  No question... (none)
        that 9/11 lit the Neocon's fuse, an old one. Wolfowicz developed his invasion plan shortly after the Gulf war (the apparent source of the Israeli-Pentagon conspiracy theory: retaliation if not strategical peace), and actually later tried to get Clinton to buy into it. As the tale goes, Clinton threw it into the waste basket and Wolfowicz had to wait another ten years to get it implemented.
        •  a good point ... (none)
          ... bush sr. was more than well-situated, with the same financial and industrial backing and especially with a stronger coalition, to tilt iraq into a civil war.

          if this was such a good plan, why didn't daddy implement it?

          remember, cheney was against it before he was for it:

          "I would guess if we had gone in there, I would still have forces in Baghdad today. We'd be running the country. We would not have been able to get everybody out and bring everybody home.

          "And the final point that I think needs to be made is this question of casualties. I don't think you could have done all of that without significant additional U.S. casualties. And while everybody was tremendously impressed with the low cost of the (1991) conflict, for the 146 Americans who were killed in action and for their families, it wasn't a cheap war.

          "And the question in my mind is how many additional American casualties is Saddam (Hussein) worth? And the answer is not that damned many. So, I think we got it right, both when we decided to expel him from Kuwait, but also when the president made the decision that we'd achieved our objectives and we were not going to go get bogged down in the problems of trying to take over and govern Iraq."

          cheney, 1992, speech at discovery institute in seattle

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