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  •  New Orleans all the way! (none)
    There can be NO GREATER MESSAGE than to remind voters of BushCo's incompetence. And at the same time demonstrate Dem's committment to the American people.
    •  An obvious choice (4.00)
      The cities must have a convention space that can seat 23,000 to 25,000 people (in portable or non-portable seating), must have 17,000 hotel rooms and 1,000 suites available, and be able to provide adequate office space, media work space and transportation to and from the convention site.

      But will the infrastructure be ready in time to host the convention?  At the rate things are going now, I don't know if I could say for sure.

      Liberal: "I still think it's a respectable word. Its root is "liber," the Latin word for "free," and isn't that what we are all about?"--Mary McGrory

      by mini mum on Tue Feb 28, 2006 at 10:46:01 AM PST

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      •  That is the big issue, of course (none)
        but we do have a couple of years.

        Who knows how big the convention will be then? Hell, it might be mostly virtual - it certainly is possible.

        TV doesn't give a damn about it, the 'winner' is usually annointed by then, so the whole thing is just a sham anyway.

        Hmmm... sounds like Vegas would be the perfect place then. No real purpose, a lot of partying, lots of noise, and often regretted in a few months.

        Yep, that's Vegas.

        •  Vegas could hold both conventions at once... (none)
 fact, the Dem convention could be held just at the south end of the strip, using the MGM, NYNY, Trop, Mandalay Bay, and Luxor, and having the actual convention in the Thomas & Mack Center, with satellite events at the hotel ballrooms.

          For shits and giggles, I'd redirect Bill O'Reilly's reservation to the Paris.

          Las Vegas would be good, but I would also like the convention to be in New Orleans.  With the opening on August 29, 2008.

          Katrina changed everything.  However, I'm afraid the  Dems are too chicken to rub the Rethug's nose in the failure that was the Federal government's response to the disaster.

      •  Infrastructure is ready. (none)
        An earlier diary on this already brought this up. The convention center is already re-opened and will be fully functional in Novemeber, and there are 18,000 hotel rooms available right now. By 2008 things should be doing a lot better.

        We also can realize the dream of a world without war, but only by stubborn persistence, only by a refusal to surrender that dream -Howard Zinn

        by Jawis on Tue Feb 28, 2006 at 10:51:21 AM PST

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      •  Bullshit (none)
        The host city needs liberal alcohol laws and an abundance of prostitution.  Check and check.

        "I say unto you, in as much ye have done it unto one of the least of these my brethren, ye have done it unto me." Jesus of Nazareth

        by Spider Stumbled on Tue Feb 28, 2006 at 10:52:14 AM PST

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      •  Interestingly (none)
        it kinds of cuts both ways.

        If New Orleans is completely open for business, in great shape, well, the Democrats could look kind of idiotic standing on a podium pounding and screaming about how New Orleans is the fault of the Republicans- cut to shot of Bourbon Street with big party going on.

        If there is anything I have learned from Scooby Doo, it is that the only thing to fear is crooked real estate developers.

        by JakeC on Tue Feb 28, 2006 at 10:55:30 AM PST

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    •  No to New Orleans (4.00)
      The entire news cycle will show limos pulling up to the convention center and the poor and still homeless in the city.  Unless we spend DNC funds to start building the city now (which isn't a bad idea), we get screwed on that one.

      A good plan today is better than a perfect plan tomorrow.

      by Webster on Tue Feb 28, 2006 at 10:52:27 AM PST

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      •  If we don't., the Republicans will (none)
        They're already talking about it:

        •  Let them (4.00)
          That would be as stupid as their holding it on the Armstrong Ranch.

          Whoever holds it there is going to look incredibly opportunistic and awful.  If we want to highlight NOLA, we can devote a night of the convention to the terrible crimes of the Bush Administration and give it an hour of Monday night prime time.  But if so, we as a party had better be in there building houses NOW, since to swoop in and do the Habitat for Humanity thing a week or so beforehand will seem craven.  Mostly because it will be craven.

          My apologies to students who took my U.S. Government class in the 90s: evidently the Constitution doesn't limit Presidential power after all. Who knew?

          by Major Danby on Tue Feb 28, 2006 at 11:17:26 AM PST

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        •  i don't think the rethugs will go to no. (none)
          it isn't in their best interests.
      •  nail meet head. n/t (none)

        Dig down, find more. -5.38, -6.10

        by brocktunestudios on Tue Feb 28, 2006 at 10:54:49 AM PST

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      •  Limos (4.00)
        Not if we skip the limos this time around.  Think about it.  Make it a re-building event as much as a convention.  There will still be plenty to do.

        Picture Jimmy Carter and Habitat for Humanity building houses in the 9th Ward.  Clinton painting a Sunday school room at a local church.

        We don't have to make it about limos and tuxes.  Make it about what the Democrats are supposed to be about.  Make it about helping the city recover.

        Meet me in Cognito, baby

        by out grrl on Tue Feb 28, 2006 at 11:05:25 AM PST

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        •  drive up in (4.00)

          We have no future because our present is too volatile. We only have risk management. The spinning of the given moments scenario. Pattern Recognition. ~W. Gibson

          by Silent Lurker on Tue Feb 28, 2006 at 11:09:32 AM PST

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          •  Cabs (4.00)
            Normally, I would agree.  But if this is about reviving NOLA, they would have to arrive in local cabs.  You know, the ones with the disco balls and Mardi Gras beads.  Yeah.  Driven by some a local so local you can hardly understand them.  Those folks.  The ones that have been struggling to make it the last 6 months.  The ones who would really benefit from the added income.

            Meet me in Cognito, baby

            by out grrl on Tue Feb 28, 2006 at 11:14:41 AM PST

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        •  Very true (none)
          But if they go that way, it's got to be more than just a week-long photo op.  Otherwise, the whole thing will (rightfully) backfire.
          •  Agree (none)
            I agree.  I believe Habitat is already working.  The JC/Habitat connection would not be much of a stretch.  The other leading Democrats should already have project running down there - but most of them probably don't.  

            If they can, at a minimum, point to some powerful legislation, they can deflect cries of opportunism.

            Meet me in Cognito, baby

            by out grrl on Tue Feb 28, 2006 at 11:50:31 AM PST

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        •  Carter (none)
          It's easy to see Carter doing something like that. You could even envision Clinton doing the same.

          But not most politicians. John Kerry with a power saw? Chuck Schumer with a level? No chance. And if they did, they'd look as ridiculous as Michael Dukakis in the tank.

          I serve on the board of the Band of Brothers.

          by David Nir on Tue Feb 28, 2006 at 12:52:44 PM PST

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          •  Thinking (none)
            The more I am thinking about this, the more I am wondering if this isn't part of our problem as a party.  Most Democrats could see themselves doing this sort of thing.  But we can't envision our leadership doing it.  There is more to the thought -- will have to revisit it later.

            Meet me in Cognito, baby

            by out grrl on Tue Feb 28, 2006 at 01:05:30 PM PST

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            •  Even if the limousine liberals won't do it... (none)
     about sending the union reps (especially construction trades) down with Jimmy Carter?  Much more credibility with a carpenter, electrician or pipefitter doing construction than someone like Lieberman...
    •  Winning is most important (4.00)
      Louisiana will get a fair reconstruciton deal (however belated) if a Democrat wins the Presidency. Carrying Colorado helps that effort more than Louisiana.

      I say Democrats should start having off year coventions (not made for TV events) that focus on organizing, policy, and message. The first one of these events can be in New Orleans in 2010.

      Go again in 2012 for the major convention and show off the progress - that's what New Orleans needs, not a show of support - actual support.

      RIGHT TO PLAY When kids play, the world wins!

      by joejoejoe on Tue Feb 28, 2006 at 11:22:04 AM PST

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      •  Elections (none)
        Convention locations don't win elections.  Bush didn't carry New York last year.  The idea that hosting the convention in Denver will cause the Democrats to carry Colorado doesn't ring true with me.

        Meet me in Cognito, baby

        by out grrl on Tue Feb 28, 2006 at 11:52:17 AM PST

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        •  That's a pretty small sample (none)
          NY was picked as a stage, not the electoral map. The backdrop of 9/11 was good politics for the GOP spin that Republicans will keep you safe - the reality of NY (tens of thousands of protesters) was irrelevant to the convention.

          Colorado is a good stage for a Democratic message of progressive good government with a respect for land and liberty. And Colorado is on the margin of becoming a blue state - putting your best foot forward in state can help at the margins. Putting your best foot forward in the West can help in CO, MT, NM, NV, etc.

          RIGHT TO PLAY When kids play, the world wins!

          by joejoejoe on Tue Feb 28, 2006 at 12:25:08 PM PST

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      •  They used to have... (none)
        off year conventions many years ago but decided to stop it but I think people got tired of them.  Originally conventions were used to pick the candidate, and there is no main candidate in off year elections.  

        ???/Richardson '08 Who's going to head my ticket?

        by DemBrock on Tue Feb 28, 2006 at 05:10:04 PM PST

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    •  Not only (none)
      is New Orleans the place of the greatest failure of BushCo, it is also shows the Democratic party's commitment to rebuilding the city instead of Bush's one night stand (ok, don't even think about taking the other meaning... EWWW).  The rebuilding of America will begin with the city that Republicans left in ruins.
    •  NOLA, Not Just for Sentiment Anymore (none)
      It's a grand stage for Dems to start turning the South from red to blue.

      They burn our children in their wars and grow rich beyond the dreams of avarice.

      by Limelite on Tue Feb 28, 2006 at 12:50:00 PM PST

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