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  •  I disagree... (4.00)
    we have to start winning some of these. Politicians will not be motivated to change unless their jobs are threatened. A vibrant progressive movement MUST have the ability to thorw out Dems that are Dems in name only. Only then can we be taken seriously as a political force. Untill then we will keep getting Gore, Kerry etc. who run as centrists in Presidential elections -- then lose -- and then realize that should have run as Liberals not soft-GOPers.

    I don't have a blog.

    by Albee090 on Wed Mar 08, 2006 at 10:29:07 AM PST

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    •  You know. (4.00)
      It would be nice if the opinion leaders in the netroots got excited about some races that were 50/50 already, so the netroots could actually score a win or two instead of just getting excited about longshots and making them close, but still losing.

      Will somebody PLEASE give George a BJ so we can impeach him? -5.25, -4.51

      by Tod on Wed Mar 08, 2006 at 10:54:28 AM PST

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      •  I Agree (4.00)
        I've pointed out here before that the netroots is going to be the real loser if Lamont challenges Lieberman and gets trounced (which is exactly what is going to happen).  Pundints are watching the netroots to see if it is a political force or a bunch of self aggrandizing blowhards.  By picking fights that cannot be won, the netroots will look like the latter.  

        I suggest that the netroots target one or two very close races where it can really make a difference (a surgical strike, so to speak).  For example, McCaskill in Missouri would be a great victory.  While she is not the most progressive democrat, McCaskill is within striking distance of ousting an incumbent republican senator, James Talent.  If the netroots tilts the scale in this race, then you'll have the political establishment kissing its ass.
           

        •  "Most Progressive" (4.00)
          My first reaction was that maybe the netroots paint themselves in a corner by only getting excited about the "most progressive" candidates.

          Then I remembered the poster boy for netroots involvement - Paul Hackett.  He was very moderate on a lot of issues, far to the right of Sherrod Brown.  Still, the netroots went crazy for him.  So, I don't know just what it takes to ignite the imagination of the netroots or why some candidates click and others don't.

          There may well be races where it is worth the effort to tilt at windmills, and you can make a good case for Joe Lieberman being one.  All I'm saying is it would be smart to mix in some races we can actually win as well.

          Will somebody PLEASE give George a BJ so we can impeach him? -5.25, -4.51

          by Tod on Wed Mar 08, 2006 at 01:53:14 PM PST

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    •  Agree with you here (none)
      According to polls, progressives ARE in the center. It's just that we've become so used to extremists in Washinton who are either far right or really far right. The majority of people want the same things we want: good jobs, health care, better education for their children, no trumped up reasons for going to war.
      What bothers me is that unless the 38% who still support Bush are all in TX-28, Rodriguez should have done much better. There may be many reasons that I don't know about as to why Rodriguez didn't win handily, but, ultimately, it comes down to message and how successful you are at getting the message across. If we think everyone is ready to throw Bush out on his ear, this particular election (and a number of others around the country) doesn't augur well for the November elections.
    •  Even if we lose, their jobs are threatened (none)
      because the contest deprives them of energy, momentum, and money.

      Anything's possible with Commander Cuckoo Bananas in charge. -Homer J. Simpson

      by Cheez Whiz on Wed Mar 08, 2006 at 03:30:17 PM PST

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