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  •  lot of reasons.... (4.00)
    ....because it's bad enough to have made the decision and then have to wait longer...

    ....because, in the states where counseling is required, the materials they give you is propaganda....

    ...because if you've made such a decision, counseling isn't any help and is actually quite insulting...

    ...because it's all just hoops to jump through put there by people who are nuts in the first place...

    Crime is contagious....if the government becomes a lawbreaker, it breeds contempt for the law. -- Justice Louis Brandeis

    by FemiNazi on Sun Mar 12, 2006 at 05:52:10 PM PST

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    •  ok (none)
      so people don't go to doctors and say "do you think i should get an abortion?"

      They have already made the decision when they go to the doctor. That is something I can undestand better.

      "Dear Mr. Bush: Please obtain Tamifah's permission before invading any other countries. Love, Tamifah."

      by Tamifah on Sun Mar 12, 2006 at 05:53:28 PM PST

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      •  exactly.... (none)
        ....did you honestly think otherwise? it's definitely not a decision made lightly, and if someone says it is, they're lying.

        Crime is contagious....if the government becomes a lawbreaker, it breeds contempt for the law. -- Justice Louis Brandeis

        by FemiNazi on Sun Mar 12, 2006 at 06:01:23 PM PST

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        •  i really didnt (none)
          know. the one time i have been affected by it personally i felt like it was made lightly and it has colored my thinking. I am trying to correct that now.

          "Dear Mr. Bush: Please obtain Tamifah's permission before invading any other countries. Love, Tamifah."

          by Tamifah on Sun Mar 12, 2006 at 06:06:51 PM PST

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      •  You wouldn't go to your regular doctor (none)
        and talk about abortion.  You don't know what you will hear from them.  Some doctors would never even consider helping you find a clinic and are anti-abortion themselves.    

        I mistakenly went to a gynocologist's office once where you were nearly deaf from the volumn on the Fundi radio station playing in the waiting room by the time you left.

        Besides that, it would be placed in your medical records, and some might object to that seeing as how records are so easily accessed by insurance companies and so on.  

        In my experience, abortion is not a subject for discussion with your doctor.  Maybe that is different with everyone, but that is my opinion.

      •  Plus (none)
        some of this so-called "counseling" actually is an effort to talk you out of it, by providing "informaiton" that is absolutely NOT TRUE (there is no correlation between breast cancer and abortion, for example).  They may show you manufactured pictures of what they claim are aborted fetuses.  Then you get to wait for 24 hours.  There is no other medical procedure where you have to go through this. I had an abortion before they started this nonsense.  That day I was so rocky they took me first.  I didn't want to do it, but I had to, there were no other choices. If I had been forced to go through "Counseling" and then wait, I probably would have ended up in a psych ward that night.

        For me, it was one of the hardest decisions I ever made, and I surely didn't jump on the table with glee. That's why the phrase "abortion on demand" always pisses me off.

        There is a silver lining with the South Dakota statute, however; they went too far, WAY too far.  This is a direct challenge to the Supreme Court. And as much as Roberts and Alito worry me, there is no way the Court is going to allow a statute to stand that doesn't include exceptions for rape, incest, or health of the mother. It is still five (Stevens, Kennedy, Souter, Ginsburg, Breyer) to four (Scalia, Thomas, Alito, Roberts), even under the most conservative count.

        And if there is anything the Supreme Court hates, it is this kind of manuevering and direct challenge.  This isn't an attempt to bring up some collateral issue.  This is an attempted dead-on shot between the eyes by South Dakota, and I don't think the Court will stand for it.

        Or so I hope....

        We do not rent rooms to Republicans.

        by Mary Julia on Sun Mar 12, 2006 at 07:00:24 PM PST

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