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  •  Yes. Absolutely. Democrats ... (6+ / 0-)

    ...should be calling "reporters" on such matters all the time. If they'd done that starting about July 2002, we wouldn't be in Iraq, among other things.

    •  Baffling (2+ / 0-)
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      Why you don't see that happen more often.

      Although this wasn't MSM stuff, I saw Larry Miller, who was a panelist on Bill Maher, repeat the tired, inaccurate statement that FISA does't work because it requires intelligence agencies to wait for a warrant.  That's completely WRONG as FISA allows for immediate wiretapping with a 72-hour grace period for warrant application and, in some cases, no application need be made for 15 days.  Yet Maher didn't catch nor correct him - thankfully, Gloria Steinem jumped in and picked up the torch.

      What also bothers me is that even the Russ Feingolds of this world aren't netting it out.  A clear statement that the only reason to go around FISA is to avoid oversight of who and what is being wiretapped would cause me to fall off of my chair.

      •  Amazingly... (2+ / 0-)
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        most people who appear on discussion shows hear very little of what the other people say. They're too busy going over their own talking points in their mind.

        And those lights! So... so... bright. Shiny.

        Seriously, though. Most guests miss 75% of everything that gets said, unless the comments are addressed directly to them. The very few who feel they're appearing on the show to defend and/or promote a specific point of view (as distinct from a specific set of talking points) are able to remind themselves to continue to pay attention even when the focus shifts to other people on the set.

        This is not necessarily because they're venal or vain, though sometimes that contributes to things. The nature of these shows is such that when you finally get finished talking, there's this sense of relief that causes you to fall into a brief coma, from which you are only awakened by seeing someone (or something, like a camera) turn to you expectantly, and hint that you're on again.

      •  Yep. As for Bill Maher ... (0+ / 0-)

        ...what the hell has happened to him over the past two seasons?

        •  Damn. (5+ / 0-)

          I don't know.  I have been disappointed as well.  But take heart - I will once again reprint The. Best. New. Rule. Ever.

          MAHER: And finally, New Rule: Abstinence pledges make you horny. In a setback for the morals/values crowd, a new eight-year study just released reveals that American teenagers who take virginity pledges wind up with just as many STD's as the other kids. But that's not all. "Taking the pledge" also makes a teenage girl six times more likely to perform oral sex, and four times more likely to allow anal. Which leads me to an important question: where were these pledges when I was in high school?

          So, seriously, when I was a teenager, the only kids having anal intercourse, were the ones who missed. My idea of lubrication was oiling my bike chain. If I had known I could have been getting porn-star sex the same year I took Algebra 2 - simply by joining up with the Christian right - I'd have been so down with Jesus, they would have had to pry me out of the pew.

          And, let me tell you, there is a lot worse things than teenagers having sex. Namely, teenagers not having sex. Here is something you'll never hear: "That suicide bomber blew himself up because he was having too much sex. Sex, sex, sex, nonstop, all that crazy Arab ever had was sex, and look what happened." But among the puritans here of the 21st century, the less said to kids about sex, the better. Because people who talk about peepees are "potty-mouths."

          And so, armed with limited knowledge and believing that regular, vaginal intercourse to be either immaculate or filthy dirty - these kids did with their pledge what everybody does with contracts. They found loopholes. Two of them, to be exact.

          Is there any greater irony than the fact that the Christian right actually got their precious little adolescent daughters to say to their freshly-scrubbed boyfriends, "Please, I want to remain pure for my wedding night, so only in the ass... And then I'll blow you, I promise." Well, at least these kids are really thinking outside the box.

          New Rules - April 1, 2005

        •  He's a Libertarian (0+ / 0-)
          I've always appreciated Bill Maher for saying what others were afraid to say, but I've always disagreed with him a lot as well. I attribute this to him being a Libertarian, as well as being an over-confident, ill-informed celebrity seeking adulation.

          I watch his show to see some of his good guests, who too often have trouble finding air time elsewhere, and to hear opinions that are censored elsewhere, but I don't exactly care much for Maher's politics. He's a funny and entertaining comedian, but not an astute political pundit imo.

          Democrats -- Progress for the Working Class

          by rogun on Mon Mar 13, 2006 at 02:46:57 PM PST

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          •  Never watch him (0+ / 0-)

            because I don't get HBO. And I'm not tempted to. What I remember is some off-the-reservation (for the sake of it?) remark to the effect of "don't oppose Bush just because Bush said it." I believe this was just prior to the 04 election. Of course now, when I see him on King, he can't bash Bush enough. Please, Maher. Like you didn't realize how bad Bush was back then, and, yes, that virtually everything he says is a lie, stupid, most likely both.

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