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  •  Ken Mehlmen and Senate Republicans are lock-step (0+ / 0-)

    The difference between Mehlmen and Dean here is that all the Republicans in the Senate also oppose the censure resolution.  Mehlmen does too?  And?  You can bet that if the rest of the Republican establishment had a different view, that's the view Mehlmen would be spouting, ad nauseum, regardless of what personal opinions he holds himself.  (My personal opinion is that Mr. Mehlmen doesn't have anything like a self anymore.)

    I want to say, I am truly disgusted by the non-reaction of the Senate Democrats on this.  I'm not advocating that Democrats in general should be lukewarm on this issue.  But Dean publicly calling them out would do no good - scared as they are, it would push them to further distance themselves from him, rather than spurring them on in the right direction.  And it would make the Democrats look even more divided.  It makes me sick that this is true.  I so wish they could all see the sense in standing up to the Republicans together.  I desperately hope that Dean and anyone else who has any voice with these people are using it behind the scenes right now.

    It really is in their (the Senators') court right now, and I believe Dean is doing the best he can to encourage them in the right direction while maintaining a semblance of party unity.

    "Patriotism is not short, frenzied outbursts of emotion, but the tranquil and steady dedication of a lifetime." -- Adlai E. Stevenson

    by eebee on Wed Mar 15, 2006 at 04:04:42 PM PST

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    •  There's a difference between ... (0+ / 0-)

      "calling them out" and issuing a strongly-worded support for the resolution on its merits. One can make a proactive statement of support without challenging Senate Democrats with an attack on their spinelessness (which we in the blogosphere are more than capable of doing). Yes, it's easier for Mehlman to go on the attack since the GOP is in lock-step unison, with only modest exceptions (i.e. Dubai ports deal, Miers nomination), to every Bush Administration proposal, regardless of the extremity. Democrats, as the minority, do not have the luxury; they need effective leadership to follow, either from the top down (Dean) or bottom up (The Netroots). A party cannot change its status from powerless to powerful without at least the appearance of strength, a lesson which should have been learned from the Republicans ... who were a loud, vocal and unyielding opposition minority.

      Dean in the past has been willing to lead ahead of the pack. He was given the post mainly because he was a maverick on the campaign trail and showed his willingness to challenge Republicans, and even weaselly Democrats, head-on. It is certainly within his purview as head of the DNC to advocate a party position. Whether individual Senators choose to support that position is up to them; they can be accountable to the Democratic rank and file, just as is Lieberman.

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      Interesting to note the quote from Stevenson in your signature. Adlai Stevenson had many admirable traits, especially his principle and eloquence, but he was a two-time loser because he was not an ineffectual campaigner. Democrats don't need a Stevenson now; we need a Truman -- whose trademark quote was "I never did give them hell. I just told the truth, and they thought it was hell."

      Don't intend this as a personal slam, eebee, we just disagree on style. I come from the Missouri tradition of "muscular Democrats," those who don't take any lip from the right and won't back down one inch from them -- and expect Democratic leaders to display the same militancy, if only in a more polished style.

    •  You said the Dems are scared. (1+ / 0-)
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      What are they afraid of ?  This makes no sense.
      What's the worst that could happen if they support the Feingold resolution?

      Ow, da pwezident wiw be angwy wif dem? ohhhhh

      Wew, now I undewstand.

      Jesus, what is going on in their pre-cambrian brains?

      Who is ready to take an ethical stand?

      by DollyLlama on Wed Mar 15, 2006 at 08:26:05 PM PST

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