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  •  I strongly disagree (0+ / 0-)

    But in reality, this war is no more bad than any other war.

    This war was started on false pretenses, attacking a nation that was no threat to any other, at least at the time.

    How can that possibly compare with our involvement in WWII, for instance?

    The Democratic party - the party of sanity, reason and kindness.

    by adigal on Sat Mar 18, 2006 at 06:52:39 PM PST

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    •  Should have clarified (0+ / 0-)

      This war is no more bad than any other war in its impact on soldiers, civilians killed, torture, and such other matters.

      I have seen the truth. It doesn't make sense.

      by Ruffledfeather on Sat Mar 18, 2006 at 07:03:32 PM PST

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    •  World War II was started (0+ / 0-)
      without provocation, too, based on lies, jingoism, and false pretenses. It wasn't a good war at all. It was as bad as any other war has ever been. Worse, considering the numbers of people who died.

      The difference is, WW II was started by the Germans and the Japanese. The war in Iraq was started by the US.

      This time, the US isn't the good guys.

      Folly is fractal: the closer you look at it, the more of it there is. - TNH

      by Canadian Reader on Sat Mar 18, 2006 at 08:15:12 PM PST

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      •  asdf (0+ / 0-)

        Who are the "good guys" in the Iraq war?

        (-2.75,-4.77) "Whenever we dumb down the political debate, we lose." Senator Barack Obama

        by Sam I Am on Sat Mar 18, 2006 at 09:05:03 PM PST

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        •  Where is it written (0+ / 0-)
          that there have to be good guys in a war? Plenty of wars don't have any. The Allies in WW II weren't good in the sense that they refrained from doing bad things to innocent people. They were only good in the sense that A. they were fighting against the side that had launched an unprovoked aggressive war.

          Oh, and B. they also won, which meant they got to write the version of history that "everybody knows".

          Using rule A, it's pretty clear that the US is wearing the black hat this time, so anyone who is fighting to defend his country against unprovoked aggression gets to be the "good guy". Of course, that's a purely technical use of the term; it doesn't imply anything about them being nice people.

          The jury's still out on whether rule B is going to apply. I'd say not. The US may defeat itself, but if it does, there aren't going to be any victorious nations to write those triumphant self-congratulatory histories for the schools.

          Folly is fractal: the closer you look at it, the more of it there is. - TNH

          by Canadian Reader on Sun Mar 19, 2006 at 06:43:11 PM PST

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