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  •  And it does, in practice (3+ / 0-)
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    bablhous, curmudgiana, JZinMa

    The job of the executive branch is to exectute the laws faithfully, is it not? A refusal to execute those laws is, in essence, a refusal to acknowledge their existence, to act as if they do not exist.

    I want to die like my grandfather, peacefully in my sleep, not screaming in terror like his passengers.

    by incertus on Sun Mar 26, 2006 at 08:23:03 AM PST

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    •  No. (0+ / 0-)

      A veto means:

      • There is no law
      • There is nothing for courts to consider

      The signing statement, if acted upon, does not exempt Bush from judicial review.

      •  The Court (4+ / 0-)
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        marjo, bablhous, leolabeth, KOTCrum

        has no real enforcement power, and besides, Alito was the guy who was pushing for the signing statement back in the Reagan administration. You really think this Court would rule against Bush?

        I want to die like my grandfather, peacefully in my sleep, not screaming in terror like his passengers.

        by incertus on Sun Mar 26, 2006 at 08:28:06 AM PST

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        •  The crux (1+ / 0-)
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          You hit THE point in your post about the courts having no enforcement power.  Combine this with a de facto dictatorial president and a willingly castrated, do-nothing, rubberstamp congress and we have a very big problem.

          I believe a change to the Constitution is necessary in response.  We need to take the DOJ from the Executive (the Executive has proven time and again that it CANNOT be trusted to wield the DOJ properly:  FBI spying on Americans repeatedly over modern history is just the tip).  The DOJ needs to be placed into the hands of the Judiciary OR turned into an independent branch of government that cannot be mis-wielded by a crazy President OR a looney Congress (see Terry Schiavo Debacle).

          There must be in place, at all times, a body that can and will go after any or all branches of government when they fail at their duties.  The President and all his minions whenever he orders torture or indefinite detention or domestic spying, Congresspersons when they violate ethics laws or fail to uphold the oath.

          One way or another, the President must lose control of the DOJ and the Judiciary must be given the power to nail threats to the Constitution AND the judiciary (ala GOP death threats against judges with the gall to actually do their jobs and rule independently, and regardless, of GOP points of view on various subjects).

          The Dems are not up to the job of upholding the Constitution.  The GOP doesn't even need mention given that they are actively ANTI-Constitution.  I'm willing to bet two months pay that the Dems will do SQUAT.

          Reichstag fire is to Hitler as 9/11 is to Bush

          by praedor on Sun Mar 26, 2006 at 09:57:27 AM PST

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          •  I agree but here is the problem (0+ / 0-)

            Once one President has set a precedent for extended Presidential power the next President generally tends to keep it.

            We really need to stop the fear mongering about other people we share the planet with and start worrying about our environment. Lets just beat the swords into wind turbines and start thinking photovoltaics instead of particle beam weapons.

            As to the Constitution thats We the Peoples Law we use to keep the Government in check as opposed to the ordinary law they use to pick our pockets.

            Live Free or Die (-8.88 -9.49) IMPEACH

            by rktect on Sun Mar 26, 2006 at 04:55:01 PM PST

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      •  But there will be no judicial review (3+ / 0-)
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        Marc in KS, leolabeth, 3goldens

        unless there is a challenge, and unless the Democrats act, there will be no challenge.

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