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  •  The threat here (4+ / 0-)
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    georgia10, barbwires, leolabeth, ER Doc

    is that the Republican Congress will not challenge him. And that's a very real threat.

    But a lot of Kossacks believe that signing statements somehow have the force of law. This is like a conspiracy thread.

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      leolabeth

      not everyone is as well-versed as you in signing statements :)

      I put some info on signing statements downthread as background.

      tracking the domestic spying scandal here.

      by Georgia Logothetis on Sun Mar 26, 2006 at 08:32:59 AM PST

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    •  The are law (2+ / 0-)
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      If the president signs his illegal and totally bogus statement, acts on them exactly as stated in the signing statement, and congress does NOTHING to stop him.  Hell, if Congress doesn't even take a look to see if he is going along with his signing statements vs the actual law, then the signing statements are statements of fact.

      It's nice to say that, technically, they are not legally binding and are not the law.  It is irrelevant if the Pres is ACTING on his signing statements and there is ZERO real opposition.  The Congress is bending over backwards to make Bushie's signing statements the law by giving him blanket cover to do whatever the hell he wants.

      Reichstag fire is to Hitler as 9/11 is to Bush

      by praedor on Sun Mar 26, 2006 at 10:03:13 AM PST

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      •  what I find strange (1+ / 0-)
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        is the fact that they are using signing statements.  The Administration must be assuming that such a thing does have basis in law.  It's complete bullshit but nobody seems to want to challenge these idiots. The GOP I understand. But what the hell is wrong with the Dems.

        My point is, though, that these idiots have been ignoring the law since they got in.  Now they are just declaring that they are going to ignore the law right when it is being signed.  Must be one of their hot shot legal minds who have told them that this is a good idea.  

        •  I think they've been used a long (1+ / 0-)
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          time, but I think this administration sees them as a way to further enhance presidential power.

          These are the guys who have been moaning for decades that the president is supposed to be more powerful than he has been.

          I think they're full of shit, but as long as no one stops them, they win the argument.

          And we all go to jail...

          -9.25, -7.54

          I have little use for ponies, but much use for beers.

          by Marc in KS on Sun Mar 26, 2006 at 10:30:55 AM PST

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