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  •  This has got to be a joke. (0+ / 0-)

    Because it's very funny.

    -4.38, -7.64 Voyager 1: proof that what goes up never comes down.

    by pat bunny on Fri Mar 31, 2006 at 01:54:43 PM PST

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    •  Well, I did try to be funny (2+ / 1-)
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      to show I wasn't trying to be malicious or purposefully-trolling. But I'm guessing that's not the humor you're pointing out.

      I don't care. I know I'm posting on a democratic blog. I know how thousands here feel about Lieberman.

      But I stand by my statement. Joe has a good democratic voting record, especially when it comes to domestic issues. He's no saint - I understand everyone's apprehension over anyone who's willing to get into bed with Bush, let alone actively try to get into bed with Bush, but no one has been able (at least to my satisfaction) explain why Lieberman is worse than someone like Fienstein, who's also awfully conservitive for such a blue state. I suspect Kos took issue with Lieberman, because that's Kos's thing - how to get a democratic message out in a conservative playing field, and everyone else has just jumped on the band waggon. That's it. Why is Lieberman persecuted (sans any religous connotations) while other worse examples aren't?

      And history has proven that democracies don't war. - G"W" Bush, press conf. march 22? 2006

      by NeoconSemanticist on Fri Mar 31, 2006 at 02:01:50 PM PST

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      •  Anonymous source (0+ / 0-)

        was a lie.

        Still stand by it?

        Sheesh.

        •  As I wrote in response to mcjoan (2+ / 1-)
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          "But a Connecticut political consultant working for Lieberman said today that the writer for the Internet newsmagazine that published that report may have read too much into the senator's response.

          "We don't even talk about that because he has no intention of losing the primary," the consultant, Roy Occhiogrosso, said."

          I skimmed past the "the" in my readings, thus I thought:

          "But a Connecticut political consultant working for Lieberman said today that the writer for the Internet newsmagazine that published that report may have read too much into the senator's response.

          "We don't even talk about that because he has no intention of losing the primary," a consultant, Roy Occhiogrosso, said."

          See the difference? i'm not trying to lie, I simply misread. I thought Roy Occhiogrosso wasn't directly connected, but the article was written in a fashion that made it look like he was. Again, I apologize. I will be more carefull in my readings.

          As for the content of my post, Mike S. cleared some things up for me. I did not know Lieberman has been asking for terrorists to apologize for their terrorizing, then turn around and use the terrorists lack of contrition as a justification for Bush's foreign policy. that's pretty crazy.

          But...I've heard other democrats make some appalling statements, noteably Feinstein from California. I wondered why Lieberman is due for his comeupance and not the Feinstein's of the world.

          I think this comes from a difference in expectations. I expect politicains to be self-aggrandizing, self-serving people, regardless of political affiliations. I see many democrats that fit this mold - yet i see only Lieberman being persecuted for such transgressions. I can sympothize with Lieberman, in his quest for Vice Presidency, he had a taste of the Rock-star limelite, and is trying to serve his own interests to get it back. It seems getting dems back in controll would be a better solution as Liberman would go back to being a good democrat, still able to suck at the teat of power.

          That's it. That's all I mean. Lieberman isn't alone in his aggrandizing, Bush-apologetic behaviour, but he has a better voteing record than many other non-persecuted democrats. I didn't understand why.

          And history has proven that democracies don't war. - G"W" Bush, press conf. march 22? 2006

          by NeoconSemanticist on Fri Mar 31, 2006 at 04:21:44 PM PST

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      •  Markos defended Joe (5+ / 0-)
        through out the primaries, as did I. Since then Joe has gotten even worse as far as his attacks against the party and the left. He goes on his "good friend's" show and laughs when Hannitty accuses the left of hating America.

        And the final straw for me was his defence of the atrocities at Abu Ghraib saying that the terrorists haven't appologised to us for 9/11 and cutting off people's heads.

        From Freedon Rider to torture appologist in 40 years.

        "I was Rambo in the disco. I was shootin' to the beat. When they burned me in effigy. My vacation was complete." Neil Young. Mideast Vacation.

        by Mike S on Fri Mar 31, 2006 at 02:20:37 PM PST

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      •  Why pick on Lieberman over other DINOs? (0+ / 0-)

        I'm a teacher. When trying to establish control, I pick the most disruptive student and make an example of him. The object of my attention ALWAYS screams "What about the other kids, Mister?" Why pick on me?" The outrage is rarely genuine. The whole class knows its impossble to sanction EVERYONE who deserves it when they deserve it.

        We're dealing with Lieberman today. He and other DLCers had a lot of fun and scored a lot of points over the years taking potshots at progressive Democrats...and today is Joe's turn in the barrel. Make an example of the worst, for the other DINOs to observe.

        On another note, I think Joe's waffling on switching parties could really hurt him in the primary if used right. Lamont should make a public pledge to the effect of "Unlike my opponent, I pledge to stay in the party and work to support it no matter what the outcome at the polls." Force Joementum to make the same promise.

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