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  •  I'd be suprised if that were so. The IRR callups (6+ / 0-)

    I've seen so far have gone like this-

    Service-You signed a contract that says we own you for 8 years. We've decided to call you on all of them.
    Soldier-Where's my carrot? What's in it for me?
    Service-We don't put you in jail. We don't do carrot and stick. We do big club. You do what we say or we beat you with it.
    Soldier-Where do I report?

    They've been calling up IRR folks for a couple of years now and if you say no they say AWOL and desertion and Leavenworth and hard labor. And they ain't kidding. Only dire hardship can get you out of it and you have to report for duty then prove the hardship. From Iraq for some people. It's a sham. At least now they will be a little more prepared when they get re-upped.

    •  What contract did you sign that says that> (2+ / 0-)
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      I'd say get a lawyer. Most soldiers use a substantive portion of their two year obligation in basic training, advanced infantry training, OCS, NCO, WO or MOS training, and if you have less than 90 days left you need to sign an intent to reinlist to be eligible to go overseas. Additionally, you can get an early out to go to school, and or take various occupational training programs.


      There are two ways to serve in the US Army: either serve full-time in Active Duty as an Enlisted Soldier or Officer, or serve part-time as an Enlisted Soldier or Officer in the Army Reserve. All Soldiers have a statutory eight-year military service obligation (MSO), which is established at the time of entry into military service (Active or Reserve). Traditional enlistment terms are three, four, five and six years. Terms of service for active duty are from 2-6 years.

      As of 22 June 2004, the Army's Individual Ready Reserve (IRR) contained slightly more than 111,000 Soldiers. These trained Soldiers may be called upon to fill vacancies in Army Reserve units and may replace Soldiers in Active and Reserve Units. Part of the Army's Ready Reserve, the IRR involves individuals who have had training, served previously in the Active Component or the Selected Reserve (such as a member of an Army Reserve unit), and may have some period of Military Service Obligation remaining. Unlike new recruits, these are seasoned, experienced Soldiers who can contribute significantly to Army readiness. The IRR, as it exists, is mandated by Congress under Title 10 of the U.S. Code. In accordance with implementing instructions contained in Army Regulation 135-91, members of the IRR can be required to join an Army Reserve unit if they are statutorily obligated and have a skill needed by the Army.

      Activation is when an Army Reserve Soldier is called to serve in the Army full time. Activation can put you in an Army job within the United States or you may be deployed to foreign soil. Once activated, Army Reserve Soldiers can only serve a maximum of two years active duty.

      Presidential Reserve Callup Authority [PRCA] is a Provision of a public law (US Code, Title 10 (DOD), section 12304) that provides the President a means to activate, without a declaration of national emergency, not more than 200,000 members of the Selected Reserve and the Individual Ready Reserve (of whom not more than 30,000 may be members of the Individual Ready Reserve), for not more than 270 days to meet the support requirements of any operational mission. Members called under this provision may not be used for disaster relief or to suppress insurrection. This authority has particular utility when used in circumstances in which the escalatory national or international signals of partial or full mobilization would be undesirable. Forces available under this authority can provide a tailored, limited-scope, deterrent, or operational response, or may be used as a precursor to any subsequent mobilization.

      Reservists from throughout the armed forces began registering their civilian places of employment for the first time with the Department of Defense 31 March 2004. Called the Civilian Employment Information program, the registration is the first mandatory disclosure by the Selected Reserve and Individual Ready Reserve of their civilian employers into a common database. Unlike previous military service efforts to voluntarily gather employer data, this new program is mandatory. Reservists and guardsmen who knowingly fail or refuse to provide their employment-related information, or provide false information, may be subject to administrative action or punishment.

      In May 2004 the Army's Human Resources Command - St. Louis (HRC-STL), began identifying Individual Ready Reserve Soldiers with a statutory Military Service Obligation (MSO) remaining for possible assignment to an Army Reserve unit. These Soldiers may be assigned to position vacancy requirements within designated Reserve units based upon the needs of the Army.

      Since early May 2004, the Army Reserve's Retention and Transition Division has been contacting Individual Ready Reserve (IRR) Soldiers with a remaining Mandatory Service Obligation (MSO) to solicit their voluntary transfer from the IRR to Army Reserve Troop Program Units (TPU). In conjunction with a screening of the IRR population by HRC-St. Louis, this effort was intended to match the skills of IRR Soldiers with units in their local areas, thereby enhancing the readiness of the Army Reserve.

      This effort may have been presented as something beyond a purely voluntary endeavor. As a result, there may be some Soldiers who feel that they were misled or pressured into joining a Reserve unit, when, in fact, that was not the intention of this voluntary transition initiative. Soldiers who believe they were unduly pressured into transferring to an Army Reserve unit, or that facts were misrepresented in the process of such a transfer action, may seek redress through the U.S. Army Reserve Command Retention and Transition Office. Transfer orders determined to be the result of coercion or misrepresentation can be revoked, if such allegations are confirmed.

      Although every effort will be made to meet personnel needs with volunteers, involuntary mobilization of IRR Soldiers can be executed with the approval of competent authority. The Army Reserve is an integral component of an Army serving our Nation at war. Those members of the IRR who still have a remaining contractual obligation may be called upon to serve, subject to the needs of the Army.

      On 30 June 2004 the Army announced plans to order 5,600 Soldier in the Individual Ready Reserve to active duty for possible deployment with the next Operations Iraqi Freedom and Enduring Freedom rotations. Those Soldiers called up will have 30 days from the date the orders were issued to take care of personal business before having to report to a mobilization site, officials said. The orders call for 18 months of active duty, but that could be extended for a total of 24 months if needed, they said. The IRR call-up does not impact retired Soldiers, contrary to several civilian media reports.

      The main purpose of this IRR call-up is to fill personnel shortfalls in a number of Army Reserve and National Guard units that have been tagged to deploy overseas as part of the OIF 3 and OEF 6 rotations planned for late fall 2004. Many of the personnel shortfalls are for Soldiers already assigned to the deploying units who are not deployable due to medical, family or legal issues. The actual mobilization and deployment requirement is for about 4,400 Soldiers, but personnel officials expect to find some of the IRR Soldiers with similar medical, family and legal issues that may keep them from being deployable. While the specific jobs the called-up Soldiers will fill are varied, the heaviest requirements include truck drivers, mechanics, logistics personnel and administrative specialists.

      This is not the first time the Army has used the IRR to fill its manpower needs. During the Gulf War, more than 20,000 IRR Soldiers were mobilized and deployed. Since the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, the Army has called up more than 2,500 IRR Soldiers -- the majority through IRR volunteers, though some have been involuntary call-ups. Historically, the Army needs to mobilize about 13 IRR Soldiers to get 10 deployable Soldiers. The called-up IRR Soldiers spend about 30 days at a mobilization installation, getting checks to see if they are qualified for deployment, getting individual weapons qualification, conducting Common Task Testing and receiving training in a number of warrior tasks that reflect the realities of today's operating environment, including how to recognize an improvised explosive devise and reacting to an ambush. Those who do not pass the readiness muster at the mobilization installation for reasons including anything from medical and legal reasons to physical challenges may be disqualified and sent home. Those who pass the muster will be sent on to military occupational specialty schools to get refresher training, normally lasting between two to four weeks. The final stop is joining the deploying unit at least 30 days before deployment for collective training as a unit.

      On March 22, 2006, the Army announced that the Secretary of the Army had endorsed an integrated and systemic approach to reset and reinvigorate the Individual Ready Reserve (IRR). The Army’s strategy focuses on transforming the IRR into the Army’s leading ‘prior service talent bank’ through several programmed initiatives as it builds the future force.

      The Army plan called for immediately developping an identity with increased esprit de corps for members of the IRR by creating a special category within the IRR for its ready and qualified IRR Soldiers. This special category was to be called the Individual Warrior (IW) Category. Soldiers in the IW Category would be required to maintain a higher state of readiness by participating in virtual musters, attending annual readiness processing and, through managed training opportunities, maintaining proficiency in their military occupational specialty. The IW Category would focus on elevating individual expectation management, proactive career management, unique training opportunities, and promote continuum of service towards a military retirement.

      If all that fails you can always ask for a CO discharge...

      Live Free or Die (-8.88 -9.49) IMPEACH

      by rktect on Wed Apr 05, 2006 at 10:22:57 AM PDT

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      •  All I'm saying is I know one lady diaried here (1+ / 0-)
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        that her brother in law (I think) got called and refused and arrested. I have a navy IRR friend who sat in the brig until his hardship went through. The point of the diary (I think) and my point (I think?) is that the way the Army presents it, nice, genteel, polite, and the way they actually do it, or the way it feels to the troop, are two different things. When I signed up they said I could go to school. When I got to my unit (I was Infantry) they said I was dreaming. I bulled my way into two classes in three years and my seargents made me pay for the hassle I gave them. Any one who wants to be a public servant, be it soldier, clerk, or politician, has my respect (well, within reason). But they need to read that contract like they are selling their very soul to the devil because that contract is basically indentured servitude for 8 years. More if they say they need you. "Involuntary Extention" is the term for "Your butt is staying right here for another year." My favorite line is "Other Duties as the Army deems Neccessary." We got a lot of people in the Infantry because when they washed out of their MOS boot the Infantry becomes the other duties. The other thing is that once you join, learn the regs. They are written for the solider not the sarge. My first CO told me that and it got me out of many a nasty duty (and into those 2 classes.)
        Oh and "basic training, advanced infantry training" is 13 Weeks out of 104 (two years) for Infantry. You want specialized training like computers and medical tech you're going to have to sign up for 4 years minimum. Grunts, truck drivers and cooks get two. I had to go four for Airborne and Ranger (really advance infantry training:)
        And once you're overseas the trick is getting home. The Army is thin over in Iraq and they're extending guys way past their time and then giving them double and triple tours.

        •  There are always alternatives (1+ / 0-)
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          DoD Diectives on screening the Ready Reserve

          A Service member, on written application, may be discharged from a Reserve component of a Military Service if the Service member has become a member
          of the clergy and establishes as follows, that:

 The ministry is his or her main primary vocation.

 His or her religious faith group is recognized substantially for religious purposes.

 His or her standing in the faith group is recognized as that of a minister or leader.

          DODI 1200.15, Sep. 18, 1997
 He or she is certified by an applicable official of the faith group to be a fully qualified member of the clergy in good standing.

          Because of the Presidents faith based inititives Clergy are exempted.

          Applying as an orthodox hedonist can be supported on grounds going back to the Vietnam War.

          Live Free or Die (-8.88 -9.49) IMPEACH

          by rktect on Wed Apr 05, 2006 at 12:40:06 PM PDT

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