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  •  Re: National security (none / 0)

    I wonder how "appropriate" it is to make national security into an economic issue?

    To the extent that national security must be paid for, it's appropriate.  It helps diffuse the idea that one must have a warrior background to have credibility on the issue.  And it helps shine light on the Bush regime's weakness in national security.  

    To wit, he hasn't secured our ports and airports because he was too busy running up deficits to give hand-outs to his rich cronies.  Bush's economic policies are the foundation of why we aren't safer today than before 9/11 and remain vulnerable to attacks on American soil.  His Iraqi misadventures are just the recruitment ads for the army to carry out those attacks.

    Bush can stick out his lower lip and posture in his own inimitable macho shithead way, but it doesn't alter the fact that shipments by sea are still entering the country uninspected and that airport security is no better than before 9/11. Dean can certainly match Dubya for backbone plus advance a plan that improves our lot on three fronts - deficit reduction, jobs and security.

    While I don't think we should try to reduce everything to economics, where there's an economic factor to an issue and we have ideas that address that, we shouldn't be afraid to call the Bush regime on those economic failures.

    •  Re: National security (none / 0)

      I never said the economic issues shouldn't be addressed, only that the Dems lose big time when they avoid vision and stances (i.e. ideology) for economic issues.  Bush hasn't avoided securing ports and airports because he doesn't have the money to do it (he doesn't, but that isn't what's stopping him) its because he doesn't want to.  That's not an economic issue, that's an ideological one, (i.e. if he's "rewarding" rich cronies).  

      That's  where I'm differing with you.  Bush has no "economic" plan, only an ideological one; he sees the economy as an tool for an ideological plan, not the other way around.  The Dems need to counter his plan for what it is and present a different ideology.  By consistently talking about everything as an economic problem/issue, the Dems miss the opportunities that the Repubs are set up to exploit.

      Economy is important, but the Dems lose far, far too much ground concentrating only on that and letting the rest go as "inconsequential".  The "inconsequential" part is where the Dems lose every time.

      Words can sometimes, in moments of grace, attain the quality of deeds. --Elie Wiesel

      by a gilas girl on Sun Nov 30, 2003 at 05:23:19 PM PDT

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      •  Points well taken... (none / 0)

        I agree that the Dems should counter Bush's ideologically driven agenda with a different ideology based on Democratic ideals.  I think Dean does that.  Which is why I'm OK with treating national security as an issue where economics is as important as more ephemeral things like resolve.

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