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  •  I just want to say... (none / 0)

    That I almost did a terrible thing just now.

    I was going to rate this diary.  But just as I was clicking on the rate-all button, my finger touched the roller & it changed my rate to a 1, rather than the rating I meant.

    This is always my fear when I want to rate posts.  I always worry that If I don't press the rate-all button for each one, that I will accidentally scroll a previous rating to something I don't mean.

    Sorry about being off topic, but it really rattled me.

    by katiebird on Sun Jan 18, 2004 at 04:42:14 PM PDT

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    •  Ratings backtrack (none / 0)

      I'm nearly sure that you can change a rating by simply entering a new one and hitting the ratings trigger. I haven't tested it, but the ratings-entry window is still there even after rating a post.

      -- Rick Robinson

      The best fortress is to be found in the love of the people - Niccolo Machiavelli

      by al Fubar on Sun Jan 18, 2004 at 04:49:52 PM PDT

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    •  Rate All (none / 0)

      BTW, I've been wanting to ask wtf does "rate all" mean?  I just want to rate one post once in a very great while, since for the most part I consider these ratings a huge pissing contest.  Rate all freaks me out and I've been too lazy to look up the instructions that came with this game.

      by bbuster on Sun Jan 18, 2004 at 05:06:50 PM PDT

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      •  me too (none / 0)

        I have this same question, and I did try to look it up in the instructions.  Why does it say "rate all" next to each individual comment rating box?  What happens when you click it?  It seems to only register the rating for that one comment, but I've never been absolutely sure.

        by jsavage on Sun Jan 18, 2004 at 05:19:36 PM PDT

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        •  Rate all (4.00 / 2)

          What you do is set the number on all of the posts that you'd like to rate from the pull-down menus.  Then, once you've hit the bottom of the page, you click "Rate All," and the ratings get applied to every one of the posts you've set a number to.  It will not rate every post; just the ones you've put a number on.

          blog | -6.13, -5.95 | Live every week like it's Shark Week.

          by folkbum on Sun Jan 18, 2004 at 05:29:15 PM PDT

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          •  Ratings (none / 0)

            OK. So why do some posts have a rating of none, but a count of 1 rather than 0?

            This has bothered me for a while. I have yet to see a count of 2 or higher for a rating of None.

            Democrats stand for Liberty, Security, Support of Families and Opportunity Whiskey Tango Foxtrot - over

            by Rick B on Sun Jan 18, 2004 at 06:58:51 PM PDT

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            •  ya need 2 ratings (none / 0)

              to make an average that gets used.

              none/1 is when just 1 person has rated the post.

              i toss out ratings often, just because i believe good posts should be rewarded, and because i feel it's part of our duty to try and rate accurately.

              a sometimes genius

              by skaiserbrown on Sun Jan 18, 2004 at 07:15:18 PM PDT

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            •  Duh (none / 0)

              Those counts are the TOTAL number of ratings given by dKos readers.

              You're not alone here, don't you know? ;)

              The "none" (or whatever you set it to) in the dropdown box is the rating that you have given (or will give if you hit "Rate all").

              by Felix Deutsch on Sun Jan 18, 2004 at 07:25:44 PM PDT

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              •  Ratings (none / 0)

                If so, then there should be very few None/0 if there are None/1 's. The reverse seems to be the case. Most ratings are None/0 with a few None/1 's.

                I am of course ignoring the real ratings that also appear in the list for this discussion. Any rating that is 1 through 4 also seems to have a reasonable number after it, such as 4.00/2 or something. It is merely the None/1 's which strike me as curious.

                Democrats stand for Liberty, Security, Support of Families and Opportunity Whiskey Tango Foxtrot - over

                by Rick B on Sun Jan 18, 2004 at 08:40:04 PM PDT

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                •  Aha! (none / 0)

                  Ok, I was under the impression that you were talking about the "none" in your ratings box.

                  The one next to the totals means overall rating for this post and it takes at least 2 ratings to change a "none" to an overall average. Otherwise "none/1" is show, regardless of the rating.

                  by Felix Deutsch on Sun Jan 18, 2004 at 08:52:55 PM PDT

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                  •  Ratings (none / 0)

                    Oh! The light goes on.

                    If I rate your comment as a 4:Excellant [as, of course, everything which falls on the screen from your keyboard obviously deserves], and I am the first to do so, it will appear as None/1 because there is only a single rating of any numerical value. Only when a second rating is applied would there be an average posted.

                    Have I got it?

                    Though, if that is the case, I see nothing wrong with a 4.00/1 as an average.

                    Democrats stand for Liberty, Security, Support of Families and Opportunity Whiskey Tango Foxtrot - over

                    by Rick B on Sun Jan 18, 2004 at 09:09:40 PM PDT

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                    •  Yes (none / 1)

                      Though, if that is the case, I see nothing wrong with a 4.00/1 as an average.

                      It's because it should be at least two votes for an  overall rating to count, for they contribute to your trusted user status (many recent good ratings give you special powers).

                      BTW you can check out the individual ratings by clicking on the "none/1" (or whatever is displayed).

                      by Felix Deutsch on Sun Jan 18, 2004 at 09:49:03 PM PDT

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                      •  Ratings - reply to Yes (none / 0)

                        OK. I think I've got it. Clicking on the reported rating made it clear what you were telling me. Thank you very much.

                        Now, for the always existing political question. Who established the rule that only two or more ratings count? Kos? Whoever designed the system we are using? Someone else?

                        And is there a user's guide of all the features on this commenting system? If so, is there an ~index~ that we not-so-geeky-ones can use to get quick answers to the system details (not to say quirks - no no, I would NEVER say quirks.)

                        Democrats stand for Liberty, Security, Support of Families and Opportunity Whiskey Tango Foxtrot - over

                        by Rick B on Mon Jan 19, 2004 at 07:37:28 PM PDT

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              •  Duh (none / 0)

                Maybe I wasn't clear.

                I understand that each time some separate individual rates a comment from 1:Troll through 4:Excellant, there will be an average provided with the number of separate ratings included in the average. 3.33/3 is clearly three ratings, one 4 and two 3's made by three people.

                "None" is not a numerical rating, however. Yet I see ratings of None/0 and None/1. I have not seen a None/2 or higher denominator.

                My question was what is the difference between None/0 and None/1? None is the default, that is, unrated.

                It isn't a major problem, just a matter of mild curiosity. Does it have any meaning? Or is it an undocumented feature of the kind that MickySoft seems so happy to provide us with?

                Democrats stand for Liberty, Security, Support of Families and Opportunity Whiskey Tango Foxtrot - over

                by Rick B on Sun Jan 18, 2004 at 08:55:11 PM PDT

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      •  Rate All only for some windows (none / 0)

        The Rate All box doesn't show up in the Dynamic Threaded setting but it does in Threaded (I can't get Dynamic Threaded to work on my work computer and still open inner comment threads without crashing the Windows Explorer [??]).

        since for the most part I consider these ratings a huge pissing contest.

        And don't knock the rating system. I rarely have the time to run through 147+ comments but when I know I have 15 minutes to check in it's nice to be able to scan quickly to the couple "hot spots."

        The polls don't tell us how a candidate is doing; they tell us how the media is doing.

        by Thumb on Sun Jan 18, 2004 at 06:41:19 PM PDT

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