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And quite frankly, it's best if the Democrats in Ohio and Florida do that on their own, without being pushed by Kerry (HINT HINT). Kerry can take a step back, concede, and assume the election is over. If it proves, two weeks from now, that Ohio has screwed up and that the certified total really does change the outcome -- which, everyone should realize, is very, very unlikely given these overall numbers -- then Kerry wins, whether he has "graciously conceded" or not.
Personally, I do think there was quite a bit of fraud, but I don't think it was enough to change the outcome. Florida is more odd, and I'd like to see recounts there perhaps even more than in Ohio. Not because I think it would change the outcome, but because we need to have evidence that the system is working.
There is no possible reason not to recount the votes. After 2000, it would be a good exercise, either way, in determining whether the problems have been "fixed".
But in-state Dems need to get off their asses and do it, and not wait for Kerry/Gore/Dean whoever to swoop down and rescue them. For nationwide political reasons, they can't do that right now.
by Hunter on Thu Nov 04, 2004 at 01:44:54 PM PDT
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by LowellR on Thu Nov 04, 2004 at 02:24:43 PM PDT
But we need some Ohioans to step up and file the challenge, either way. And so far I'm not hearing anyone has, which is just silly.
by Hunter on Thu Nov 04, 2004 at 02:38:19 PM PDT
by LowellR on Fri Nov 05, 2004 at 05:26:36 AM PDT
The Ohio party leadership has been asleep since Verne Riffe left.
That's why everyone in the US had better contribute time or money to the Jerry Springer for governor campaign. Hey, if Arnold can win so can Jerry. He is actually a very astute politician and I think he can win. But he needs help from around the country.
Forget working on the Senate in O6. If you want to help this country you had better get a democratic spine in Ohio.
I hated Bush before it was cool.
by daveriegel on Thu Nov 04, 2004 at 03:50:48 PM PDT
when?
I'm up for money, at least. It's obvious we need governors. Otherwise, it's rigged against us. FL and OH both.
Let us rid ourselves of the fiction that low oil prices are somehow good for the United States.
by M Aurelius on Thu Nov 04, 2004 at 08:07:51 PM PDT
NetrootNews coming soon!
by ksh01 on Thu Nov 04, 2004 at 11:21:22 PM PDT
wide narrow
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