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  •  investigation (4.00 / 5)

    this should be investigated.  I'm serious.  Destruction of records on such a politically heated issue.  A FOIA for records documenting the destruction would be the first step for the press (if they were accidentally destroyed there should be memos about this unfortunate incident).

    by seamus on Thu Jul 08, 2004 at 09:03:59 PM PDT

    •  what is needed... (3.75 / 8)

      is for some of the other vets whose pay records were in that group to start filing civil actions and FOIA requests. after all, they may stand to lose some part of their military pensions, which, unlike Dubyanoccio, they may need to feed and house themselves.

      Idiots of the world, ignite!

      by susanp on Thu Jul 08, 2004 at 09:06:31 PM PDT

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    •  I think AP has filed a lawsuit (none / 0)

      for the microfilm copy of his service record stored in the Texas state archives, within the last couple months.

      The State copy may have escaped the 'unfortunate' incident at the AF archive.

      The Democratic Party: We the People (7801)

      by JimPortlandOR on Thu Jul 08, 2004 at 10:06:44 PM PDT

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      •  I thought I heard (none / 0)

        that the US doesn't keep all its paperwork eggs in one basket, and that somewhere is kept a full copy of Bushbaby's records, and that microfilm copies of it are kept at four separate locations... wish I could remember where I heard this (I think it was in the article referenced above where someone said they witnessed Bush's records being sanitized back in 97, check Calpundit's site, that's where I first saw it)

        by misty on Thu Jul 08, 2004 at 10:11:12 PM PDT

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      •  Links to AP Suit in Federal Court (none / 0)

        FauxNews

        ABCnews

        The Democratic Party: We the People (7801)

        by JimPortlandOR on Thu Jul 08, 2004 at 10:31:58 PM PDT

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      •  FOIA Fest (none / 1)

        I think these might be the records the AP was after. The article says the announcement came as the result of a FOIA:

        The loss was announced by the Defense Department's Office of Freedom of Information and Security Review in letters to The New York Times and other news organizations that for nearly half a year have sought Mr. Bush's complete service file under the open-records law.

        THe article doesn't make clear whether or not one of the news organizations was the AP. But it does reference the AP further down in the article:

        On June 22, The Associated Press filed suit in federal court in New York against the Pentagon and the Air Force to gain access to all the president's military records.

        The lost payroll records stored in Denver might have answered some questions about whether he fulfilled his legal commitment, critics who have written about the subject said in interviews.

        Anyway, ONE of the things they seem to be doing with this is getting into a FOIA fest that will run out the clock on the election. The officials in charge of the information are inviting more FOIA's by not answering any real questions on this:

        Mr. Talbott's office would not respond to questions, saying that further information could be provided only through another Freedom of Information application.

        I assume, if this is a response to the AP suit, that the AP would have to refile their suit to get accelerated FOIA responses to these new questions, questions like, "Okay, show us the dog!"

        This is the way democracy ends Not with a bomb But with a gavel -Max Baucus

        by emptywheel on Fri Jul 09, 2004 at 05:38:29 AM PDT

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