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  •  You know (none / 0)

    I agree with a lot of what you say, it just doesnt ever seem like this has been a winning issue for the dems. On the contrary it has been a major loser for us, and I think like most things, it is mostly about how we allow the other side to frame the issue in their terms, instead of creating some proactive messages that resonate with the people.

    I'm just unsure wether this is the time to take on this issue.

    by mickey on Mon Sep 13, 2004 at 09:40:25 AM PDT

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    •  Against Teflon Bush (none / 0)

       We may not have much choice. This is a fresh issue, no accusation of false documents here and it is relevant. Also, maybe we should give up on the whole only worry about the swing voter approach, and maybe try to get more of the base involved, you know the millions who did not vote?

      by bam bam on Mon Sep 13, 2004 at 09:44:02 AM PDT

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      •  we may not (none / 0)

        It really is just a matter of how it is framed.  Clinton framed it beautifully, about a month or so ago, and he was talking about how the repug congress was about to let expire one of his programs that put more police on the street, 80,000, and actually on the street, and now the program was going to be allowed to die. And let the assault weapons die at the same time.  WTF   why are'nt dems screaming about this shit.    

        by mickey on Mon Sep 13, 2004 at 09:56:51 AM PDT

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    •  Alone, it's a loser (none / 0)

      The assault weapons ban issue alone isn't a real winner. People know that the sale of these kind of weapons are foolhardy and wreckless, but any attack on the lack of the renewal alone wouldn't do much good outside one or two Action McNews cycles.

      Where it does work is in connecting it to the war on terror, and the easy-to-connect point the lapse of the ban gives and how clearly visible the willingness of the GOP is to compromise (yes, the C word!) the war on terror for the sake of their special interests. That has better legs and is a another part of the aggregate strategy the Kerry campaign has been waging all along-if you can make swing voters fault the current administration enough to get over the "support the president in wartime" hump, then they'll be willing to give you the look you want from them. If they do, K-E wins.

      by Fragamemnon on Mon Sep 13, 2004 at 10:12:47 AM PDT

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