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  •  I listed my reasons above. (none)
    In consultation with our pediatrician, we considered the pros and cons of circumcision and decided to have our son circ'd. The American Academy of Pediatrics believes that it should be up to the parents. They acknowleges that there are benefits, such as decreased risk of cancer (which my sister-in-law, a nurse, sees routinely in uncir'd men,) UTIs and so forth. The research is not as one sided as you are presenting.

    Frankly, I'm not "defending" anything other than my right as a parent to make the decisions that I feel are in the best interest of my son. And I'm done with this conversation.

    No hard feelings, I hope we can discuss politics rationally if we encounter each other on different threads. But I'm not jumping into this fray again.

    "Conservatives are not necessarily stupid, but most stupid people are conservative." -- John Stuart Mill

    by Auntie Mame on Sat Oct 15, 2005 at 03:19:53 PM PDT

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    •  not routine (none)
      Australian docs do not routinely recommend it.(1971)

      Canadian docs reject it as routine also(1996)

      Ditto for the docs in Finland(2003)

      UK...in deep discussion about it.

      United States...doesn't routinely recommend but allows it for the benefit of the parents and only at their request.

      Information at Cirp

      Be careful pointing your finger in judgement of others because your other three will be pointing back at you.

      by tvb on Sat Oct 15, 2005 at 03:32:15 PM PDT

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    •  That's a distortion of AAP policy (none)
      In 1999, the AAP, a relatively conservative organization, concluded that there are potential benefits to circumcision. And in as gentle a way as possible, they did their best to steer parents away from routine circumcision:

      The AAP's policy on circumcision states that the benefits are not significant enough for the AAP to recommend circumcision as a routine procedure.

      In 2000, they ran an article in their journal that stated that risks outweight potential benefits:

      A Trade-off Analysis of Routine Newborn Circumcision looks at the risks and benefits associated with circumcision, and concludes that while circumcision remains a relatively safe procedure, for some parents, the risks reported may outweigh the potential benefits. Based on their study of 354,297 newborn male infants, researchers determined that a complication could be expected in 1 out of every 476 circumcisions.

      Though granted, they were mushy enough to backpedal somewhat with this editor's note:

      EDITOR'S NOTE: This study was published in the supplement to the January issue of Pediatrics, the peer-reviewed, scientific journal of the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP), but does not necessarily reflect the policies or opinions of the Academy.

      If you have research that refutes the numerous links I've provided, I'd be happy to look at it.

      And while parents can now legally make this decision for their children, my hope is that someday this horribly painful procedure will be made as illegal as any other unneeded newborn genital surgery. Already many insurance companies will no longer pay for circumcisions(understandable given the high risk of complication).

      That being said, I don't take this argument personally. Clearly we are at the point where we are going to have to agree to disagree.

    •  frequently sees cancer? (none)
      I find it hard to believe your sister frequently sees cancer in uncircumcised men when the lifetime risk is 1 in 100,000.  Your sister must see one hell of a lot of patients.

      I have never let my schooling interfere with my education. -- Mark Twain

      by vinifera on Sat Oct 15, 2005 at 05:25:03 PM PDT

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      •  No Auntie Mame (4.00)
        just prefers making shit up to support her decision regarding her son's penis.  Whatever helps her sleep at night.
        •  And the name sucks! (none)
          As in:

          "I knew Auntie Mame,
          I've camped it up with Auntie Mame,
          She was a friend of mine.

          AND YOU'RE NO AUNTIE MAME!"

          Look, I know you're allowed to adopt any nom de snark you like around here, including revered madcap gay icons, but I really resent this one.

          Besides, she sounds a lot more like Mommie Dearest than Auntie Mame if you ask me (and even if you don't).

          "Nobody's coming to get her." (the NOLA emergency worker's mother who drowned in the nursing home after five days waiting)

          by homogenius on Sun Oct 16, 2005 at 08:55:39 AM PDT

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