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  •  Well, let's see. (none / 0)

    ""you feel it's not a big deal what Microsoft has done. ""

    Exactly correct.  This is a succinct and true representation of my position. :)

    ""As for hate and bile, I can't say I see that and I usually check his site every day. It's the first site I check after Kos, and then I follow it with Buzzflash, to start. As for hate and bile, can't be any worse than some of the diaries that get posted here. "F'n religious right" , "F'n Catholics" , "F'n Evangelicals" , "F'n Republicnas" - to name a few of the phrases I see regularly on here.

    I'm sorry - but when someone or something says  or does something really stupid, and someone calls them out, that's not hate and bile. That's calling you out.""

    But that's the thing -- there's no humility (there, and on many of the diaries here) about maybe not knowing best on who's stupid and who's not.  Self-righteousness is a big problem in much of the liberal blogosphere.

    As for the diaries here -- I think many of them are egregiously bad in this regard.  "The DailyKOS diaries do it too" isn't really a defense of AmericaBLOG except to say that we also need to get our own house in order.

    I bomb atomically / Socrates' philosophies and hypotheses can't define how I be droppin' these.

    by RealityBasedJoe on Thu Apr 21, 2005 at 11:42:29 PM PDT

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    •   Compared to what... (none / 0)

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      your diaires??

      My signature beat up your signature.

      by Stand Strong on Fri Apr 22, 2005 at 05:40:59 AM PDT

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      •  If you read back through... (none / 0)

        ..My diaries I've made on various usernames, I keep them quite civil.  Or at least, I do my best to.

        I bomb atomically / Socrates' philosophies and hypotheses can't define how I be droppin' these.

        by RealityBasedJoe on Fri Apr 22, 2005 at 08:55:05 AM PDT

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        •  Well (none / 0)

          all I see here is RealityBased Joe. Gimme something to look at.

          My signature beat up your signature.

          by Stand Strong on Fri Apr 22, 2005 at 10:23:46 AM PDT

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          •  Well, I went back and checked... (none / 0)

            And everything I wrote as PersonalResponsibility, PersonalResponsibilityReloaded, and PersonalIrresponsibility was erased.

            I bomb atomically / Socrates' philosophies and hypotheses can't define how I be droppin' these.

            by RealityBasedJoe on Fri Apr 22, 2005 at 11:49:23 AM PDT

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            •  Mmmmm (none / 0)

              My signature beat up your signature.

              by Stand Strong on Fri Apr 22, 2005 at 01:03:22 PM PDT

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            •  Not to sound like a cock (none / 0)

              but I've seen people who - just by your mere presence - will troll rate you. And with diaries that vanished and comments that reflect those ratings, you might want to be careful what you say.

              Not that you care. Or should care, really. But I guess - you're on DailyKos for a reason - whether its to contribute, look around, or incite certain feelings.

              Bottom line - it seems you've been labeled a troll by a few. It has the potential to follow you around, like in fact, it did here.

              If you want people to listen to you, debate you, and take you seriously, it's something to think about.

              That whole section in the "Microsoft backs out on gays (Psss..pass it on) diary where you were troll rated the hell out of I'm sure didn't go to well for you. And while I'm not a supported or censorship well...you prolly deserved it.

              My signature beat up your signature.

              by Stand Strong on Fri Apr 22, 2005 at 01:08:32 PM PDT

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              •  Thanks. (none / 0)

                ""but I've seen people who - just by your mere presence - will troll rate you. And with diaries that vanished and comments that reflect those ratings, you might want to be careful what you say.""

                If I were more selective about what I said so as not to rile people up (Which I think was what you meant), my purpose for being here would dwindle.

                Not because I come here to get a rise out of people.  In fact, just the opposite.

                I come here because I believe the Democratic party's future is a liberal, progressive vision.

                And in my eyes, there's no better representatives of that liberal, progressive vision than Tom Friedman, Bill Maher, Scoop Jackson, and yes, sometimes, Joe Lieberman.

                I recognize that many here disagree with that -- but frankly, I think that's because the modern American left has become illiberal and regressive in many ways.

                And I think it's time for true liberals and progressives to stand up and save the movement from itself, to some degree.

                Doing that involves a lot of butting heads.  Look at the front page right now.  Look at how they're calling Tom Friedman childish names, Tom Friedman of all people!  One of the leading lights of our movement, if ever there was one!  And look at how they denigrate him.

                There's a lot of work to be done.

                ""Bottom line - it seems you've been labeled a troll by a few. It has the potential to follow you around, like in fact, it did here. ""

                I accept that.  But steadying and focusing the direction of the Democratic party and the progressive movement is important enough to have some thick skin about.  Which is why I keep coming back here.

                I made a big long post on one of the previous names, a diary, called "Let's talk about civility of discourse at DKos."  It received over 400 replies.

                It was really good.  It's a shame it's lost to history now.

                I bomb atomically / Socrates' philosophies and hypotheses can't define how I be droppin' these.

                by RealityBasedJoe on Fri Apr 22, 2005 at 03:43:32 PM PDT

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