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  •  I favor "freedom" or "liberty" (4.00 / 10)

    These are universal concepts, and the idea of not being told how you can or cannot live your life is as fundamental a value as Americans have.  "Privacy" seems a very narrow construction of this broad value, and "equality," while honorable, is too prone to being hijacked by the right-wing liars into debates about welfare queens and "the undeserving."

    Equality, in other words, is tactically disadvantaged because it is susceptible to sneaky appeals to racism.  Liberty or freedom, OTOH, is harder to argue against.

    Hanoi didn't break John McCain, but Washington did.

    by Dallasdoc on Mon Jun 13, 2005 at 12:20:39 PM PDT

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    •  Individual freedom? Individual liberty? (4.00 / 2)

      That's still better than privacy and I did suspect that equality has a connotation.  I don't want to be too afraid of connotations, though, some can be boldly defended, equality from Democrats should be a staple.

      "But your flag decal won't get you into heave anymore."--Prine
      Blue House Diaries

      by Cathy on Mon Jun 13, 2005 at 12:25:35 PM PDT

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      •  Sovreignty (none / 1)

        To me, it's the same situation as the integrity of national borders.  You don't cross into Mexico to stop something that's legal there, that you don't care for.  Every human being has sovreignty over her own body.

        Rubus Eradicandus Est.

        by Randomfactor on Mon Jun 13, 2005 at 01:45:35 PM PDT

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        •  sovereignty (none / 1)

          To me, it's the same situation as the integrity of national borders.

          yeah  well  we know what the Bush    regime thinks of  that principle.

          hell Bush doesn't  even  know what sovereignty means!

    •  I've been thinking this same thing (none / 1)

      since I first read the "abortion is necessary to protect our right to privacy" argument. I can't see the logic in that argument at all. Privacy and abortion are related issues--they both flow from the same core value: liberty. THAT is the core value that sacrosant doctor/patient relationship (choice, contraceptives, medical marijuana,), family planning, no regulation of morality, opposition to Patriot Act, a right to die, consumer privacy and religious freedom all fall under. Placing them all under the umbrella of privacy seems a bit cart-before-horse to me.

      Like minds think each other great.

      by Heresiarch514 on Mon Jun 13, 2005 at 08:05:47 PM PDT

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