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  •  Point is... (3.00 / 2)

    Having endorsed a Republican Senator, I don't see NARAL as an ally anymore, but simply a self-absorbed single issue group that exemplifies the very fragmentation that is destroying the Democratic Party and progressives in general.

    15 years ago, an endorsement of a moderate Republican might have made sense.  Right now, the stakes are too high and party membership alone is an overriding concern - especially as the GOP is very effective at whipping wimps like Chafee into line.

    by Drummond on Wed Jun 08, 2005 at 05:25:07 PM PDT

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    •  Control over my body isn't a single issue (none / 0)

      It's my body. It's got me in it.

      I have a right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness. If the state or the Emperor's Theologists feel they have the moral right to commandeer my body for reasons of their own, say, reproduction or picking cotton for no wages, they are to be fought tooth and nail.

      You might regard control of one's body as some fancy schmancy boutique issue.

      I regard it as integral to my life as control of my brain, heart and spirit.

      by Peanut on Wed Jun 08, 2005 at 06:51:44 PM PDT

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      •  And so... (none / 0)

        People living in poverty, people dying in war, the collapsing environment, declining living standards, declining civil rights, and everything else takes a back seat so that an organization can help the Republicans maintain a majority in the hope that maybe this guy will vote for choice if Fritz lets him.

        I'm starting to understand why the prochoice movement is so exclusively upper middle class.

        by Drummond on Wed Jun 08, 2005 at 08:49:04 PM PDT

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        •  In democracy only some people can have rights? (none / 0)

          I missed the part in the Constitution what said "We the poor people ... " I thought everybody got them.

          Which rights have you given up for [insert your cause here]?

          And where do you get these assumptions about how much I make/don't, what my background is, whatever you use in your little formula of who should have civil rights?

          by Peanut on Wed Jun 08, 2005 at 09:26:16 PM PDT

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          •  Maybe I'm missing something here (none / 0)

            You're saying you have fewer rights than poor people?  I mean, I've met Libertarians and Republicans who believe that.  Never a leftist.  A first time for everything I guess.

            Makes sense since you're resorting to a Freeper tactic here attempting to paint me as anti-choice.  Reminds me of being painted as anti-American for opposition to the war.

            When did I say anything about your background?  Can you quote me verbatim?  I believe I was referring to the indisputable fact that lower income people (and many, many people of color btw) are alienated from the pro-choice organizations, and I think that the willingness to sell them out to support a cheap pol who's voted for them on occassion, but just voted to confirm a judge who's extremely bad news to all of their causes - well, I think that may have something to do with it.

            by Drummond on Thu Jun 09, 2005 at 11:11:10 AM PDT

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