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  •  They're missing the point (none / 1)

    if republicans believed that you couldn't filibuster based on ideology now, they believed that then, which means that they would do the exact same thing whether we had a deal or not.

    Again, people think the deal was about saving the filibuster.  Not really.  The deal doesn't prevent them from approving the nuclear option than before.  Anyone who thought otherwise was supporting the agreement for the wrong reasons.

    What this does is wave an agreement in their faces, hopefully (and dare I say probably) with public opinion on our side saying that if they do it, we're going to paint them as people who can't even keep their own promises in the Senate.  Hopefully as a result, they'll rather either not implement the nuclear option, or vote against it than face both a shutdown of the Senate on top of having a clear cut case of untrustworthyness to deal with.

    Mad Wombat

    by FleetAdmiralJ on Sun Jul 03, 2005 at 10:36:41 PM PDT

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    •  Are you accusing the Rethugs of integrity? (none / 1)

      They're missing the point (none / 0)

      if republicans believed that you couldn't filibuster based on ideology now, they believed that then

      Well I am not accusing them of integrity, just the usual power plays and twist everything to their benefit.  Not remembering what they thought then is in character for that party.  Or they could have let the Dems think so, even if they didn't.

      My critique then and now was that the compromise was a bad deal which tied Dems up in knots more than Rethugs.

      Even Soto says they "twisted" the words and the logic.

      But I think we do need to paint them into a corner as being the ones who nominate in bad faith for an extremist agenda and that the 7 Rethugs are going to break the deal for a nuclear option in bad faith to support an extremist agenda.  

      When the 7 Dems compromised they were lauded by the press for their moderation. We need to get the MSM to say the Repub's are breaking the deal not us.  At least, so far,  in the Post article they have characterized our side, not the other way round.

      Debra

      by debcoop on Sun Jul 03, 2005 at 10:47:19 PM PDT

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