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Those who are willing to sacrifice liberty for safety deserve neither. (Paraphrasing B. Franklin)
by p a roberson on Fri Aug 19, 2005 at 08:32:02 AM PDT
Bush and his cowardly supporters are never on the front lines, they "Support the Troops" with their wimpy little magnets on the back of their terrorist supporting SUV gas guzzlers.
Ride a bike or Drive a Prius to cut terrorist funding.
or
$1.00 per gallon of gas goes to the terrorists, how much money did you deliver to them today?
Impeaching Bush and his henchman Cheney is the way out of this mess.
by MD patriot on Fri Aug 19, 2005 at 09:06:27 AM PDT
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"America did not invent human rights. In a very real sense, it is the other way around. Human rights invented America." -Jimmy Carter
by Bulldawg on Fri Aug 19, 2005 at 11:08:04 AM PDT
by volballplr on Fri Aug 19, 2005 at 11:45:17 AM PDT
Handicap our troops on the battlefield and demand that they show excessive restraint to the point that they are needlessly killed.
If we do happen to capture a prisoner we then take him to the prison and torture him even though he is no threat and not on the battlefield.
Violate international law regarding detention and prosecuting individuals.
Neglect to provide the troops with enough equipement and other support.
Neglect to seal the boarder with Syria.
Neglect public services and infrastructure maintenance.
Get mad when insurgents kill our troops and then ramp up the torture of detained prisoners.
Neglect to go after the insurgents that are killing our troops and kill them or capture them to take them off of the battlefield.
Push too hard on the Constitution and tick off the Shiites and the Sunnis.
Make speaches about taking the fight to the enemy and then don't take the fight to the enemy and wuss out on the battlefield and torture more detained prisoners.
This is so stupid it is hard to believe.
The strategy should be to hunt down and kill every insurgent on the battlefield as is possible - they either surrender or die and if they surrender they should be treated with absolute dignity and respect in detention. Furthermore, the Syrian boarder should be sealed immediately.
This is the only strategy that is going to help us be more successful and win hearts and minds as well as respect, however absolute success is not possible at this point.
Honor bound to defend freedom. Freedom is long-standing army regulations.
by RichardG on Fri Aug 19, 2005 at 12:52:41 PM PDT
Above the clouds, what's to be found, I have to wonder - will I be around--Paul Weller
by Above the Clouds on Fri Aug 19, 2005 at 01:15:35 PM PDT
Right now the only way to truly win is to send enough troops, but we don't have the troops to send.
Furthermore, the military is like a well-tuned race car it can go 100 mph and do so smoothly and steadily, but you can also push too hard and blow out the moter.
We are at the point where we can conceivably blow out the moter of this race car. If they screw up the military we are really in bad shape.
by RichardG on Fri Aug 19, 2005 at 01:35:17 PM PDT
Para-phrasing.........."Don't you remember the cheering when we toppled the statue of Saddam." That was it folks. Left me speech less to hear that stupid nonsense.
Time for bushandco to get out of the green zone and into the real Iraq.
IMPEACH THE SOB'S. THEN TRY THEM FOR WAR CRIMES.
by sunshine85364 on Fri Aug 19, 2005 at 03:58:51 PM PDT
Fritzburgh An'at--Politics, Culture, and Whimsy from a Chipped Chopped Mind
by Bob Quixote on Sat Aug 20, 2005 at 10:28:07 AM PDT
The strategy should be to hunt down and kill every insurgent on the battlefield as is possible - they either surrender or die and if they surrender they should be treated with absolute dignity and respect in detention.
Good point. Has anyone noticed that there is never any mention in the media of Americans who have been taken prisoner by the insurgency? Never -- not ever. Almost 2,000 KIA and almost 7,000 seriously wounded, but there is only one soldier - Pfc. Keith M. Maupin, 20, of Batavia, Ohio - who is listed as captured. Doesn't that seem odd? Americans have been taken as prisoners of war in most past wars, so why not in this one? For example, during the Vietnam War, the North Vietnamese held about 700 of our prisoners in the "Hanoi Hilton" prison camp. These prioners were regularly the subject of talks during the Paris peace negotiations, and their release was a condition of the Paris Accords that ended the war.
One thing the Abu Ghraib scandal proved to the insurgency is that if Iraqis get captured, they will not be treated per the Geneva convention as prisoners of war. They will be tortured, and they will be executed. Furthermore, the American government has never once intimated that they would be willing to consider prisoner exchanges. This is a rediculous position to hold, since we're dealing in Iraq with Arabs who have a rich tradition and deep understanding of prisoner exchanges. George Bush refuses to negotiate with them under any circumstances, even if they may have American prisoners. Thus, the insurgents have no incentive to show mercy to Americans prisoners, and instead they are executing captured American soldiers in the field and on the spot. This could be avoided if George Bush would get his head out of his ass and indicate that that the Americans might be willing to negotiate prisoner exchanges. But that would involve negotiating with the enemy, and Bush isn't about to authorize that.
by catullus on Fri Aug 19, 2005 at 09:48:03 PM PDT
Our soldiers move in armored convoys with overwhelming firepower. Most of the casualties are in ones and twos or from IEDs. So, there is almost always someone to recover wounded and dead.
None of this is to imply we shouldn't respect basic rights, but I don't think doing so will bring back more of our guys alive. It's just the right thing to do.
And now a word from the National Paint, Varnish and Lacquer Association
by Olds88 on Sat Aug 20, 2005 at 12:08:03 AM PDT
Halley Seven, United States Nil - You see, it can be done!
by ian1973uk on Sat Aug 20, 2005 at 03:11:09 AM PDT
Well, that's probably a bit harsh. But please let's not make the same mistake again in 2008 by nominating a pro-debacle candidate (like Clinton, Biden, Kerry or Edwards) again. If they can't admit their support for the invasion was a mistake, no one will or should take them seriously.
Chomsky Fever! John McCain sucks.
by miasmo on Fri Aug 19, 2005 at 11:35:37 AM PDT
The example of Cindy Sheehan has caused me to reconsider my rationalizations for John Kerry and strive not to make that mistake again.
by BCF on Fri Aug 19, 2005 at 12:13:28 PM PDT
by nlacey on Fri Aug 19, 2005 at 02:19:28 PM PDT
I look forward to reading it, tho not the best choice of words for the grim subject
by sharman on Fri Aug 19, 2005 at 04:58:36 PM PDT
wide narrow
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