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  •  I don't think we should yield.... (none / 0)

    .... an inch on privacy either. The problem with the pro-choice argument is the premise that all discussions of abortion right must be limited to the issue of privacy. They completely dismiss any and all moral considerations. Atleast consider they such concerns exist.

    For abortion rights to be limted to a discussion of privacy rights, you HAVE to assume that the fetus is not a living being during pregnancy. You rightly contend that religion shouldn't dicate the government's answer to that question. The problem is that science can't answer that question either. Should America turn to you?

    Why doesn't a fetus in the second or third trimester qualify as a human life in your opinion?

    •  Wrong terminology (none / 0)

      It is a life, and a human life at that:  we ain't talking puppies or lizards, here....The question is whether it is in any meaningful sense a human person bearing rights.  And THAT is where the moral issue lies and that is where the court said there is no issue in the first trimester, only for the mother's health in the second trimester, and only to save the mother's life in the third trimester.  But, in the first trimester?  It's a larger or smaller clump of cells, with a heart and eyes even in the second month, but isn't in any meaningful sense a person--by my standards.  But--and here is the point--in the first trimester, you get to use your OWN religious standards (hence the invocation of the notion of privacy!)  Where does anyone come off telling my wife or daughter or sister what to believe about the personhood of that entity at that stage?

      -7.88, -6.72. "Wherever law ends, tyranny begins."--John Locke IMPEACH THE BASTARDS!!!

      by caseynm on Thu Aug 25, 2005 at 06:48:48 AM PDT

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