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  •  I can only add (4.00 / 13)

    that as a woman, I want it all to be about reproductive freedom...I want the government to stay out of any and all decisions I make as to how and when I will reproduce.  

    Maybe we should make the case that if we allow the government to determine when it is that we must reproduce then we are conversely allowing them to decide when we MUST NOT....

    I also think that many women would be attracted to a  position that guaranteees them some rights as to how they decide to manage their pregnanices and deliveries.  I was one of those on the front lines demanding options in regard to maternity care...

    by tjb22 on Thu Aug 04, 2005 at 09:56:06 PM PDT

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    •  As a woman (1.00 / 2)

      do you think any of it should be about the President on his own word being able to send American citizens to prison on a nearby Caribbean island where he or she can be tortured and then tossed down the memory hole?

      Get your priorities straight woman.  No one here is anti-choice, but when the Constitution is disintegrating, there are more basic problems to confront.  This nation survived as a democratic polity for nearly two centuries before Roe vs Wade.  We cannot survive the dismantling of the Bill of Rights.

      Knut

      by Knut Wicksell on Fri Aug 05, 2005 at 05:23:13 AM PDT

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      •  back off (4.00 / 6)

        and shitcan the sexist condescension.  If you told me "Get your priorities straight woman" to my face I'd kick you right in the balls.

        The fact is that this is not about "The Bill of Rights vs. Freedom of Choice".  You're making that up.  It's a fake.  If the Bill of Rights is in peril, it's not because of the Democrat's support of abortion rights - it's because of the idiots who voted for Bush, thinking whatever they were thinking about how he was going to keep us safe from terrorists, etc.  

        I can tell you that if the Democrats wimp out on support of abortion rights they will lose my vote, and that of millions of other women.  If you want to risk the consequences of that, then you're a fool.

        Yes, there are still FEMINISTS on Daily Kos! Join the fabulous Supervixens every Thurs. night

        by hrh on Fri Aug 05, 2005 at 06:54:02 AM PDT

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      •  Where the hell (4.00 / 4)

        did this come from????  Don't know about you, but as a woman, I CAN and OFTEN DO walk and chew gum at the same time...I'm certainly capable of dealing with more than one issue at a time.

        These two particular issues aren't even difficult...I can't be the only one to notice that those most likely to deny rights to women are also those that are likely to support the dismantling of the rest of our rights.

        by tjb22 on Fri Aug 05, 2005 at 08:29:39 AM PDT

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      •  Wrong (none / 1)

        there are more basic problems to confront

        Garbage.  Nothing is more basic and fundamental than control over your own body and mind.  If you see a conflict between vigorous opposition to torture and vigorous support of reproductive freedom, then you're the one with the screwed up priorities.

        Get 'em straight, man.

        by ryan b on Fri Aug 05, 2005 at 09:46:44 AM PDT

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