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  •  Go ahead with rationalizing (none / 0)

    Because the simple fact is that there's no indication that it's not an important issue for them, either.

    Or that civil rights are.

    Or that gay rights are.

    Or that the war is.

    Or that the economy is.

    Or fill in the blank.

    But you go on rationalizing your finger-waggling at the electorate for not buying the "If we take a stance, someone won't like us" theory of politics.

    Who's against the big tent? Every single would-be pundit who kicks people in the teeth for feeling passionate about their rights.

    TRAP law supporters
    Why modern-day conservatism makes no sense to me

    by media girl on Wed Sep 21, 2005 at 08:00:33 AM PDT

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    •  Yes there is an indication. (none / 0)

      The indicator is this:  Republicans control the country, and they run unabashedly pro-life as far as abortion is concerned, even though polls consistently say that the majority of the country supports Roe.  The Democrats have run unabashedly pro-choice since the 1980's, but they have been losing more than winning.  The only possible explanation is that support for Roe is less important than other things for key constituencies.  

      Facts sometimes hurt, but the effective political actor will find ways to obtain her objectives after taking those facts as a given. That's what Hillary Clinton and Chuck Schumer are doing.  The ineffective one simply resorts to believing his own propaganda, truth be damned.  Which one one are you?

      by eastsidedemocrat on Wed Sep 21, 2005 at 01:07:15 PM PDT

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      •  Flawed logic (none / 0)

        The Democrats have run unabashedly pro-choice since the 1980's, but they have been losing more than winning.  The only possible explanation is that support for Roe is less important than other things for key constituencies.

        A big mistake a lot of people make is that correlation means causation. And here there's not even correlation.

        1. It's a modern urban legend that "Democrats have run unabashedly pro-choice since the 1980's." In actual fact, many Democrats are anti-choice, and run as such, and most others just try to avoid the issue altogether, which is not unabashed support, it's weasly support.

        2. Democrats have been going along with much anti-choice legislation, including TRAP laws.

        3. The losses of Democrats have been since the DLC led the party away from its core constituencies. And they seem to be doing that more and more.

        The picture you paint is pure fantasy. "The only possible explanation"? I don't think so!

        TRAP law supporters
        Why modern-day conservatism makes no sense to me

        by media girl on Sun Sep 25, 2005 at 09:08:29 AM PDT

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