that doesn't mean that the substance of the proposal is irrelevant, but it does mean that your attitude should be one of cooperative solution finding.

For example, if it doesn't contain elements dems think are crucial to success, then you propose them, strongly, even play hardball, but still do it under the guise of the commission. If the attitude is, on the other hand, to shoot it down unless its perfect from the get-go, think about what your alternative would be.

The deal is, being punitive without getting things done in Iraq is gonna be toxic for dems in '08.