Hillary the war monger will be leading the charge from the Democratic side of the Bi-partisan War Party.  Time to stamp her out along with the suck-up McCain, who wants to put 20,000 MORE TROOPS in Iraq.  What for John, so they can be ready to invade Iran?

End the blood lust, stop the oil wars now before Iran is involved.

will mean cheaper oil. So, it's got to be related to the Palestinian issue. Israel wants the Jordan Valley and Iran is pushing for a Palestinian State. A viable one. Not swiss cheese.

... and tell President Eisenhower to leave the democratically elected Iranian PM Mossadegh alone.

This was something they've wanted to do for quite some time.  They certainly were enabled.  

Hizbollah, and without having regained custody of the two soldiers whose abduction was the supposed cause of their disproportionate attack.

So they gained nothing, and suffered a defeat against a much smaller force with nowhere near the resources the IDF possesses.

On the whole, it was probably even more of a disaster than their original invasion of Lebanon 24 years ago, proving yet again the wisdom of George Santayana.

because of the emigration it would cause, couldn't they take up Iran's offer to abandon its nuclear program if Israel gives up its nukes?

There were also arguments like "They can only blame themselves." As usual, it was the fault of the victims. The most creative solution came from the Deputy Minister of Defense, Ephraim Sneh: "The practical responsibility is ours, but the moral responsibility is theirs." If they launch Qassam rockets at us, what else can we do but answer with shells?
 
Ephraim Sneh was raised to the position of Deputy Minister just now. The appointment was a payment for agreeing to the inclusion of Avigdor Liberman in the government (in biblical Hebrew, the payment would have been called "the hire of a whore", Deut. 23,19). Now, after only a few days in office, Sneh was given the opportunity to express his thanks.
 
(In the Sneh family, there is a tradition of justifying despicable acts. Ephraim's brilliant father, Moshe Sneh, was the leader of the Israeli Communist Party, and defended all the massacres committed by Stalin, not only the gulag system, but also the murder of the Jewish Communists in the Soviet Union and its satellites and the Jewish "doctors plot").

In One Word: MASSACRE!

Won't meet with Palestinians until they "recognize" Israel.
Read: we're not interested in Peace.

doesn't view Israel as such. He was interpreting the views of Ahmedinedjad.

argument I made a couple years ago:

http://mboard.rediff.com/board/board.php?boardid=news2004sep27iraq

Subject: CIA Iraq Covert Political Plan Aired and Then Axed

This is the most absurd thing I've ever heard of! All of the candidates were vetted by the PA. It's like the RNC saying it won't play covert games to determine the outcome of Republican primaries!

The choices are utterly proscribed to begin with -- the object being to keep the majority Shi'a clerics from taking immediate control over the central government, where they might actually keep Iraq together in one piece long enought to reunify the country with Iran! You know, those borders are just lines drawn up in the British Foreign Office 90 years ago. For a long time before that it was all the Ottoman Empire. That common identity never really went away.

Everyone knows that the game plan is to break Iran up into three more managable pieces -- Shi'a south, Sunni center, and Kurdish north. Each oil exporting region will have its own U.S. controlled pipeline and its own petty tyrant, and some randomizing terrorist groups thrown in to keep everyone off balance. These squabbling potentates will assure the need for an American armed presence for years to come.

The British tried to do things more directly -- by putting the larger minority faction in control over the rest. But, that would mean resurrecting the Ba'ath Party by another name.

The stuff I read in the major U.S. papers about the "New Iraq" is recycled Pentagon press releases -- it's the Saigon Five O'clock Follies all over again. It's like reading about how Thieu will be more of a democratic leader than Kye, who was more of a democrat than Diem, who was too French and too Catholic. And poor Diem, before Ambassador Harriman offered him "safe passage" and coaxed him to meet his maker inside that armored personnel carrier, he was so much nicer than that wicked Madame Nhu. Big crocodile tears at MACV and CIA.

Even if there are elections in January, this has absolutely nothing to do with the warlords who will actually be running all those little warring fiefdoms a year later.

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Posted by Mark Levey on 28-SEP-04

spend some time with the borders that have little or nothing to do with Iraq ... note:

• the big chomp out of turkey to build a kurdish state
• the land-locking of syria
• the growth of the kingdom of jordan
• the usurping of Iran's oil region, and of their northwestern territories

and then there's the Islamic Sacred State ...

it's clear that any attempt to have a sovereign yield territory will require either armed conflict or threat thereon ... this map is a recipe for continued mayhem ...

First, bin Laden would not aprove of that map because there are too many states on it - he wants the Caliphate to be unified, not broken up further.  

Second, this map is clearly not in the United States' interest.  LondonYank obviously hasn't looked at any other maps besides this one.  If he had, he would notice that the new Arab Shia State controls most of the oil-producing areas of Iraq, Iran, and Saudi Arabia.  That's a problem.  Never mind the weakening of Turkey's control over key water sources in its eastern territory.  

And lest people think the "legit" justification for war is still out there, Iran is still a decade or so away from having the bomb.  That means they're still years away from having targets for attack.

Frankly, I'm stunned that this diary was recommended.  By anyone.  Conspiracy theorist nonsense.