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I'd rather keep our Dem Senators in place as long as possible.
Do not meddle in the affairs of dragons for you are crunchy and taste good with ketchup.
by teeb on Wed Nov 29, 2006 at 03:11:59 AM PDT
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Clark = strong national security, foreign policy Edwards= strong domestic policy, oversight, etc. Either this duo or a Dem governor with executive administration background with one of them.
We must not confuse dissent with disloyalty. When the loyal opposition dies, I think the Soul of America dies with it. Edward R. Murrow.
by Moesse on Wed Nov 29, 2006 at 04:11:08 AM PDT
ience as well as his military experience, NATO Commander the same position that Eisenhower held before becoming President, Edwards, on social and political experience on Capitol hill and how to get legislation slid thru unbeatable in my opinion and does not have anywhere the negatives that HRC has going in those numbers are not going to change they aren't undecideds those are people that just plain dislike her are over 40%
Military & Veterans: Politics for the deserving aka Mike Bailey
by testvet6778 on Wed Nov 29, 2006 at 04:42:27 AM PDT
by EdwardsRaysOfSunshine on Wed Nov 29, 2006 at 06:29:25 AM PDT
McCain & Clinton = WAR Authorizers | Veep prefs for Obama: 1. Sebelius 2. Richardson
by NeuvoLiberal on Wed Nov 29, 2006 at 07:11:41 AM PDT
Clark is my first choice for president for all the reasons stated above but Webb is too much like clark to be a goood VP choice. Your Veep is supposed to help you pick up votes you otherwise wouldn't get. Thus Kennedy, a, chose LBJ as his veep to appeal to those folks in the party most suspicious of Kennedy, that is, Southern Dems.
And for Clark, Obama is that guy. As a Veep, his relative lack of experience won't hurt him as much (Dan Quayle forever lowered that bar nearly to the floor), and give him a solid base to run himself whenthe time is right. Clark, on the other hand gets to take advantage of the Lightning in a Bottle that is Obama's Charisma and Media favor. Not to mention such a choice would energize minority votes and even some of the disaffected evangelical Republicans who have ben very warm to Obama's message of late.
Knowledge is power Power Corrupts Study Hard Be Evil
by Magorn on Wed Nov 29, 2006 at 04:59:36 AM PDT
the roof
by testvet6778 on Wed Nov 29, 2006 at 05:34:04 AM PDT
and sometimes I question if the planet I live on is the same many Good Dems are on...
But this country still has a problem with that pesky secret ballot.
Lots of people you would not suspect are not going to vote for an African-American for Vice President.
They may not even be able to admit to them selves as to why.
Here in very blue Seattle, when counting ballots in 04, in ultra blue districts, I noticed a huge number of ballots that split the ticket by voting Dem except where a woman's name was on the ballot.
I will wager some of them may not be able to answer why.
I am originally from NC and I expect such things there, but in Seattle it was a surprise and I kept looking for more evidence to disprove what I was seeing.
The biggest threat to America is not communism, it's moving America toward a fascist theocracy... -- Frank Zappa
by NCrefugee on Wed Nov 29, 2006 at 06:36:32 AM PDT
aside from maybe a few pockets of the deep south; I think this issue looms larger in our minds than it does in reality. The very same thing was said about Kennedy's Catholicism. Alf Landon's defeat supposedly "proved" that fact for all time. But when the election actually came, was it even a measurable factor?
Its a circular piece of thinking to to say "well America will never vote for a Black person because they are racist; therefore we'd be foolish to put a black person forward as a candidate"
in other words, you won't know until you try.
by Magorn on Wed Nov 29, 2006 at 07:06:44 AM PDT
I think it would work well for a lot of reasons. As you point out, a national ticket needs balance and Obama would provide it. Also considering the loyalty of minority voters and our need to get high turnout in minority communities, it would be a good idea to have a minority on the national ticket. Who is more qualified for this than Barak Obama?
Build the Wilshire Subway!
by SoCalLiberal on Wed Nov 29, 2006 at 07:03:15 AM PDT
I can tell you he is a DAMN charming guy. Still kicking myself for not helping out on his campaign when I got an invite (though he was a dark horse, running 3rd in his own primary at the time)
by Magorn on Wed Nov 29, 2006 at 07:08:37 AM PDT
My freshman year, I met this kid from Chicago. And we got to talking Illinois politics. He was unaware that Peter Fitzgerald was not standing for reelection. And we began talking about politics and he explained to me how candidates in Illinois, to be successful, couldn't be successful. Later I began reading up on Barak Obama and I thought to myself what a great guy this was and how wonderful it would be to have a guy like him in the Senate. So a few days later, I asked my friend from Illinois "Hey, can a guy with the last name "Obama" get elected as Senator in Illinois?" and he laughed, shook his head and responded "No way". Well we all know how that one turned out. Remember how the Democratic Party wanted Blair Hull at the time, a guy who hadn't even bothered to vote?
Kind of reminds me of a friend of mine in New Hampshire who to me anyway, is an expert of politics. About a week or two before the election, I told him I thought Charlie Bass was going down to Paul Hodes. And he told me that Hodes would run stronger than last time but would lose because "people really like Bass and they're going to reelect him." Ahhhh, I LOVE being right. :)
by SoCalLiberal on Wed Nov 29, 2006 at 07:26:41 AM PDT
The law prof, who headed the Criminal defense Clinic at the School, was almost a character out of a novel. He'd been living Legend at the PD's office with his trademark cowboy boots and ferocious courtroom style, and he was beloved by his students. He was also a self-described "last of the 1960's bleeding heart liberals" and a constant crusader for social justice as much as the criminal kind. So when he said at a clinic meeting one day:
"Hey anybody want to come to a Fund-raiser tonight? its for this great guy who hasn't got a prayer of winning, but he SHOULD win cause he is an intelligent, articulate guy whose heart is in the right place"
I went out of sheer curiosity. Sure enough that "guy" turned out to be Obama, and he was everything the law prof said. My stupdity came from not listening to my heart and deciding I was too busy with school to play Sancho to this Don Quixote candidate. My loss and a good life lesson about idealism I think.
by Magorn on Wed Nov 29, 2006 at 07:44:40 AM PDT
would make a wonderful first lady. She is on the board of the Chicago chapter of Facing History, a non profit organization that seeks to educate students, especially students in poorer schools, about important historical events.
by SoCalLiberal on Wed Nov 29, 2006 at 07:29:33 AM PDT
Teeb, you are correct on that!! Clark-Edwards 08!
John Edwards for AG '09. My fantasy - Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld and Rice tried for war crimes.
by browne48 on Wed Nov 29, 2006 at 08:53:10 AM PDT
wide narrow
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