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Thanks!
by heineken1717 on Wed Nov 08, 2006 at 04:47:35 PM PDT
My position is clear -- I'm the commander guy.
by Mr Met on Wed Nov 08, 2006 at 04:54:04 PM PDT
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He has been a backstabber for decades. Clinton healthcare reform, signing up with the neocons, the Monica Affair, his weak ass vp nominee performance, undercutting Kerry in 04 w/ the jewish vote in fla...I looked passed all that shit. But this war, this war that has taken hundreds of thousands of lives, this war for oil, that he is the number one supporter of Bush/Cheney crime cartel. This I cannot forgive nor forget. I get sick when I look at him and I am amazed that the Dems in Washington and Conn. have the stomach to be around him. How in the world do you look the other way when you are dealing with a pathological backstabbing egomaniac. You dont. And I am definitely not going to support anyone who supported, passively or actively, his detrimental third party run that probably cost us Chris Shays seat.
by texas hostage on Wed Nov 08, 2006 at 05:02:43 PM PDT
This fucker, lies about war, prevent investigation, wingnut judges, tries to kill social security.
LIeberman should be THROWN out of the caucus period. So what if that means 50-50.
Let it be. Better than working with a traitor.
Pragmatism doesn't work in Lieberman case, cause he gonna play the entire party like violin. He also will leak information directly to Karl Rove.
He is a liar and a weasle.
F. HIM.
Use Tor and PGP on the net. (google it)
by fugue on Wed Nov 08, 2006 at 05:25:45 PM PDT
and Joe hasn't been named his successor, then he needs to pay for his disloyalty to the party!
Fight the Power!
by Dem In VA on Wed Nov 08, 2006 at 06:24:05 PM PDT
It's WORTH losing the Senate to punish him....
After all, look whay Jeffords did when the GOP punished him!!!
Great idea.
Then we can have a 50-50 Senate and Cheney will rubber stamp all of Bush's decisions.
New Frame: McCain thinks he is entitled to the presidency, and will say anything to get what he thinks he is owed.
by coigue on Wed Nov 08, 2006 at 06:30:38 PM PDT
He fucking should've been a man and accepted his primary defeat.
What pisses me off more is that he was Hannity and Rove's candidate.
We're supposed to embrace him, now?
by Dem In VA on Wed Nov 08, 2006 at 06:33:45 PM PDT
have power over the Dems in the Senate. If not, be as pissed as you want.
But I am NOT giving up control of Senate...
by coigue on Wed Nov 08, 2006 at 07:11:13 PM PDT
You can bet Lieberman is bargaining like crazy to keep all positions. In which he pull all his neocon agenda.
by fugue on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 12:46:26 AM PDT
by coigue on Thu Nov 09, 2006 at 08:57:55 AM PDT
by heineken1717 on Wed Nov 08, 2006 at 05:38:24 PM PDT
are the People on Ct Democratic Town Committees and I'm certain they don't feel that Joe Lieberman is welcome in their Party.
Joe Lieberman had a meeting with close to 30 Dem town Chairs over a year ago.When they asked Joe to tone down his Pro-Bush and Pro-Iraq war rhetoric he said " I have over 70% approval of both Dems and Republicans in this state,a million in the bank and can easily raise 10 million more.I don't need or want your advice"
He ran on the CT. for Lieberman(CFL) ticket and that Party of one is what he must wear for at least the next six years.
http://dumpjoe.com/
by ctkeith on Wed Nov 08, 2006 at 06:09:13 PM PDT
Lieberman fooled CT voters into seeing the contest as Dem vs. Dem. He also ran on the basis of keeping Senate seniority, a piece of idiocy that can be laid at the feet of Harry Reid for not yanking it 5 minutes after the primary. Finally there was the power of incumbency and the Incumbent Protection Racket that (with some exceptions) kept slimily supporting Lieberman full bore.
For your notion that CT voters preferred Lieberman's policies to Lamont's to make any sense, you have to claim that Lieberman would have won a heads-up contest with Lamont for an open seat (no incumbency). Of course you can believe that if you want, but the case for it is flimsy at best. Lieberman lost the Dem primary even as an incumbent--for an open seat he'd have had to run as a Republican or independent, and a non-incumbent independent would have had no chance. And the likelihood of CT electing a Republican senator in such a hypothetical contest this year (whether Lieberman or anyone else) was about zero.
Hawkish on impeachment.
by clyde on Wed Nov 08, 2006 at 04:54:11 PM PDT
But I will HATE Lieberman until either he or I dies.
I don't hate him because he's a warmonger from a blue state. I hate him because he's a backstabbing, warmongering, Bush-loving two-faced sonuvabitch. He'll gladly double-cross any Dem he can for a little love from Hannity or Matthews or whomever.
He's slimy, he stands for nothing, he's egocentric and he's repulsive on every level I can imagine - from the what's-in-your-soul through the what-you-believe through the what-you-do through the what-you-look-like down dow his dirty, traitorous whatever's-best-for-me DNA.
So - I say - he'll NEVER be a Democrat to me. Conneticut for Lieberman is almost right. Should be Lieberman for Lieberman as his party affiliation. I'll be a Democrat for life, but I'll never count him in my party. Ever.
by teknofyl on Wed Nov 08, 2006 at 04:58:55 PM PDT
and thanks to everyone else for tips and rec's too
by heineken1717 on Wed Nov 08, 2006 at 05:03:44 PM PDT
but also say now is the time to suck it up for the majority. We have LOTS of work to do. This is not a productive battle for us. We've gotta single-handedly solve Iraq, realign our economy and energy policy, and fix the budget deficit. If we don't get some traction, 2008 might look pretty bad.
So I say, hold our noses, get loserfuck locked in so we get our majority, then GET TO WORK.
look forward. envision success.
All extremists are irrational and should be exposed
by SeanF on Wed Nov 08, 2006 at 05:24:29 PM PDT
Time to go forward.
Can't stand the man, and never will. Respect him... Never.
But we have to pick and chose our battles. And throwing him out will be cutting off our nose to spite our face...
The Republicans are not going to lick their wounds, they are already coming out swinging. Having a majority in the Senate is more important than having the satisfaction of taking away Joe's seniority.
I hate it, but that is the reality. And we are supposed to be reality based.
Grandma Jo
by JWC on Wed Nov 08, 2006 at 05:44:48 PM PDT
Webb is official. Allen concession is likely tomorrow. So the fight is on!
by SeanF on Wed Nov 08, 2006 at 05:50:02 PM PDT
and it has the added advantage of being true. every single word.
plus you were nice to the diarist. :-)
I wouldn't mind turning into a vermilion goldfish. --Henri Matisse
by isis2 on Wed Nov 08, 2006 at 05:29:46 PM PDT
Now I'm blushing ;)
by teknofyl on Wed Nov 08, 2006 at 07:15:00 PM PDT
that's the great thing about those kooky internets... you get to blush in the privacy of your own pixels. :-)
by isis2 on Wed Nov 08, 2006 at 07:38:12 PM PDT
in case he decides to become a republican! If he switched parties, I certainly wouldn't be surprised!!
Attention Waxman Staffers! Clean up on aisle 1600! huttotex 3/27/07
by reflectionsv37 on Wed Nov 08, 2006 at 05:26:51 PM PDT
landreau et al are at least Democrats, and none of them have given so much aid and comfort to the enemy as has Lieberman.
That's a pretty bitter pill you're prescribing, doc.
by b2witte on Wed Nov 08, 2006 at 06:03:19 PM PDT
wide narrow
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