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  •  Nice try (1+ / 0-)

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    sanrand

    The name is only one of several reasons why he can't win a general election, sorry to say and I know that makes people angry to say Obama would lose the presidency for the Democrats.  What we're really seeing with this name business is backlash against the Obama hype.  

    We have a guy in the White House now who was too inexperienced to be President and we've got a big mess.  I don't understand pushing a candidate whose only relevant experience is 2 years in the Senate.  Its a big job; it really would be good to have someone who is qualified and the country will be looking for that.  

    •  I've been wondering (1+ / 0-)

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      Lois

      if all the media hype about Obama (coming from the same media that obviously intentionally destroyed Dean, Kerry, and Gore and tried to destroy Clinton over and over) is to encourage Democrats to nominate this man with little present gravitas, who would (regardless of charisma) look silly in his experience level up against, say, Saint Grandaddy Prince Valiant McCain.

      The only place where Republicans are anywhere close to responsible is in the dictionary.

      by DemDachshund on Wed Dec 13, 2006 at 01:12:10 PM PDT

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      •  I don't think he'll look silly against McCain (3+ / 0-)

        I think he'll look fresh and energetic, and McCain will look decrepit.  McCain is Bob Dole without the sense of humor.  Don't worry about McCain.

        Obama is older than Teddy Roosevelt, JFK, Bill Clinton, and Ulysess S Grant were when they were elected.  Was Bill Clinton's experience of being attorney general and governor of a small southern state really so much more relevant to being President than Obama's experience working at nonprofit organizations, teaching at one of the nation's top law schools, and being a state legislator and U.S. Senator?

        At this point, I suggest we all suspend judgment for 3 or 4 months until we see what field emerges, what kinds of themes the candidates sound, and who makes smart moves on the campaign trail.

        Obama's mixed heritage: part RFK, part MLK, part Clinton, part Dean. Read more

        by jab on Wed Dec 13, 2006 at 01:21:55 PM PDT

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      •  I'm not sure (1+ / 0-)

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        why people think there's some big media conspiracy to promote certain candidates.  That's some serious tin foil stuff there.
        The media will push whatever new story will generate the highest ratings.  Right now, it's hype about Obama. It was hype about Dean in 2003.  Eventually, they'll move on to something else.  
    •  current mess not caused by Bush's inexperience; (1+ / 0-)

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      after all it's been Dick Cheney, one of the most experienced politicians in the country, who's been calling the shots.

      Moreover, 23 months before the Presidential election, you can't possibly know who can and can't win.

      Obama's mixed heritage: part RFK, part MLK, part Clinton, part Dean. Read more

      by jab on Wed Dec 13, 2006 at 01:12:24 PM PDT

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      •  Who would call shots for Obama? (0+ / 0-)

        Yeah, thats true that Bush has been manipulated by other people because he is so limited.  Same thing would happen with Obama and its a reason not to do it again.  We want accountability; we need to know who is going to run things.  

        •  While I could be wrong... (1+ / 0-)

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          I think that GW is an idiot, not just sort of stupid.  Obama on the other hand appears to be intlegent, maybe  not the genius he gets called so frequently, but one of the more intelgent guys in the room.  GW has no personal thoughts or ambitions, he has traded on his family name all his life.  These are major differences, it is foolish to dismiss them out-of-hand, as you have done here.

          This makes about as much sense as Mike Huckabee on mescaline. - Prodigal 2-6-2008

          by Tonedevil on Wed Dec 13, 2006 at 01:34:54 PM PDT

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          •  Its a big job (1+ / 0-)

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            It takes more than smarts.  Seriously, Barack Obama would not even be a major player in putting together an Obama administration!  Think of that. Its the truth and you know it.  Candidates who have been governors have experience putting together an administration; people who have been in Congress a long time have that depth of experience; Hillary Clinton can certainly say she has it because everyone knows she wasn't just a potted plant in her husband's administration.  

            •  Yes it is... (0+ / 0-)

              and yes it does.  But, being in Congress is a liability, it certainly didn't help "presidents" Kerry or Dole.  So Mr. Obama can't really sit around that place if he wants to be president.  As to your speculation that Mr. Obama would not be a major player in putting together his own administration, speculation is all that it is.  He really isn't my favorite or top pick to be the next POTUS, for a number of reasons, but your reasoning is at best conjecture.  

              This makes about as much sense as Mike Huckabee on mescaline. - Prodigal 2-6-2008

              by Tonedevil on Wed Dec 13, 2006 at 02:34:51 PM PDT

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