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  •  I'd be happy to cast that vote too but I (1+ / 0-)

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    don't think they'd beat McCain/Giuliani or McCain/xyz... Obama, at this time, weakens the ticket; he'll win in a walk in 10-15 years, assuming he growing in office and stays out of trouble.  I think he is a wonderful candidate, just not at this time in 2008.

    In youth we learn, in age we understand.

    by Jbeaudill on Tue Dec 05, 2006 at 08:00:29 PM PDT

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    •  How so? (1+ / 0-)

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      I don't see how a Clark/Obama pairing wouldn't be a solid, Democratic-defining moment. Clark's experience could negate McCain's military record, and both he & Obama would offer a refreshingly anti-Iraq war position. I think Obama's "rock star" aura would work well in the VP slot.

      I'm a dyed-in-the-wool Dean supporter from a few years ago (man, if I could ever find a gig in Burlington, I'd move across the NY/VT border in a heartbeat), so this ticket seems reasonable to me. I am so very tired of the same cookie cutter politicians we tend to offer up for the POTUS slot. The Clark/Obama ticket might be just the, oh, what's the word...

      •  Clark is The Only Answer We Have To McCain (0+ / 0-)

        I just realized that.  The Republicans will nominate him if they realize he's their shot.  Guiliani doesn't have the mass appeal McCain does, even if he's hated by many Republicans right now.

        He's a veteran who does well with liberals and youngsters, and well enough with Independents and Republicans.  Senator Clinton can't beat that and Barack Obama may not be able to.

        Clark definately would.  McCain is not a Clinton but he does have a disgust factor going for him... show the people someone who's not just a military-card plyaing jackass but a General and McCain will look like a dinosaur, he's passive aggressively negative, while Clark has vision and passion.  

        I can imagine it now, because everytime I see McCain on T.V. he sounds and squints like he needs a nap.  That's not going to be any better in two years :)

        The irony is Michelle's story only happens in America, according to its most fervent patriots. Cindy McCain's happens in any country with concentrated wealth.

        by Nulwee on Tue Dec 05, 2006 at 08:21:23 PM PDT

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        •  Obama would destroy McCain (1+ / 0-)

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          I think he's the only Democrat who would.

          I mean, if McCain's the nominee, the only way Democrats win (I'm sorry to say) is if there is someone who exudes youth and energy.

          Those who say McCain isn't a VERY strong nominee are delusional. The press loves him, and independents love him.

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          by BrentHartinger on Tue Dec 05, 2006 at 08:42:09 PM PDT

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          •  I Hope Obama Would (0+ / 0-)

            I am sort of hee-hawing about it in my newest diary, but you're right about McCain.

            That he's sort of like the political Dennis the Menace on The Daily Show, the silly little grinning boy who just happens to goof up (only involving dangerous loyalties during elections, pandering to nutjobs and torture) shows how underestimated he is by liberals.

            The irony is Michelle's story only happens in America, according to its most fervent patriots. Cindy McCain's happens in any country with concentrated wealth.

            by Nulwee on Tue Dec 05, 2006 at 09:33:03 PM PDT

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        •  I agree with you totally. n/t (0+ / 0-)

          In youth we learn, in age we understand.

          by Jbeaudill on Wed Dec 06, 2006 at 09:35:46 AM PDT

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      •  the word: unique? refreshing? While I think (0+ / 0-)

        your points are interesting, ask yourself: if we couldn't have Obama, whom would we choose? It sounds to me as though you are hoping the same hope I have, for the 'man/woman-on-the-horse' = the literary hero to come out of the woodwork and rivet the American voter!  We were Dean supporters too; his directness was so healthy and engaging and he had the advantage of being able to 'plain-talk' as our current Prez. Thanks for your comments.

        In youth we learn, in age we understand.

        by Jbeaudill on Wed Dec 06, 2006 at 09:31:41 AM PDT

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