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  •  i'm not really that angry (2+ / 0-)

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    Rick Oliver, trashablanca

    i mean, in theory i am. but not emotionally. i look at working with the democratic party, pardon the crass image, like trying to make love to someone with a broken back. It's just a great big frustrating mess.

    People are weak. politics ruins otherwise good people. I don't know what to do with that. no idea. but when we are finally emerging into a position of power to reverse some of the harms, it seems we should be trying to encourage good behavior, not highlighting how much we suck. and yes, i know we suck a lot. but still....

    All extremists are irrational and should be exposed

    by SeanF on Wed Dec 06, 2006 at 11:53:19 PM PDT

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    •  Torture is not about us and our needs! (5+ / 0-)

      It is about our obligatory duties, as a partner in the U.S. Government, to the weak and vulnerable, to all those illegally imprisoned and at the mercy of forces ostensibly under our civilian control-- it is about our duties and obligations to others. It is about our responsibility for the torture conducted in our names, with our tax dollars, with our at least partial knowledge.... and, as the diarist points out above-- surely uncomfortably-- with our at least partial consent.

      Only we can stop it. Our acceptance of it, passive or otherwise, is our participation in it.

      This is an entirely appropriate topic to bring up at this site, and just after an election is the very least damaging time in which to do so.

      I am not willing to trade our moral core for short term political viability "at any cost." We've had too much of that already, seems to me.... and American had ended up very very far to the right for it.

      "the people have the power to redeem the work of fools" --Patti Smith

      by Immigrant Punk on Thu Dec 07, 2006 at 12:08:45 AM PDT

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