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  •  You make some good points (3.00 / 2)

    and I appreciate your reply.  But I do think the key element of an effective swiftboat attack is bring up something that was previously unknown, e.g., Kerry's Vietnam thing.

    Everything is on the table on Hillary and has been for years.  No surprises or unknown here.  Everything is now a yawn.  THAT is why I think it's actually RISKIER nominating someone other than Hillary because they will undoubtedly find something out about their background that can be swiftboated.  Mark Warner is risky.

    The US is now a corporatist-fascist society where Blackwater rules. I'm neither a christian, nor a capitalist, so where do I fit in?

    by HillaryGuy on Sat Feb 18, 2006 at 06:24:03 PM PDT

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    •  Kerry's VietNam thing was unknown?! (none / 0)

      A remarkable assertion.

      For many people, that was just about the first thing they knew about Kerry.

      Still, I think all the old attacks on Hillary will be resurrected, and in their familiarity, they will take on the resonance of Truthiness.

      "You know she killed Vince Foster... that's what I heard!"

      "They say that she's a lesbian. That's why she doesn't mind Bill fooling around on her."

      "I don't know... she's a little bit of a nut. Remember that whole 'Vast Right-Wing Conspiracy' thing?"

      "I'm still angry at her about that whole thing about 'staying home and baking cookies'!  She's contemptuous of stay-at-home moms!"

      I'm getting tired of playing this game. The right wing is better at it than I am - I have no stomach for it.

      Look, Hillary would be 1000 times the President that W is. No argument.  I don't see how she get from here to there, but Lord knows I've been wrong before.

      But to suggest that smears need to be based on new information... that's not really true. They're most effective when they leverage off of what people are already inclined to believe about someone.  And the more they know of someone, the more they are inclined to have some opinion that can be exploited by exaggeration.

      The times, they are a-changin'

      by Malacandra on Sat Feb 18, 2006 at 06:31:00 PM PDT

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