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  •  Why is it easy for me to say? (none / 0)

    I lived this.

    I was an obscure diarist who in a year-and-a-half had one (1) recommended diary -- and that one a freak, just because I got hold of Sy Hersh's New Yorker piece on Abu Ghraib and linked to it first.

    Yet in the diaries, this very obscure diarist managed to coordinate and ... yes ... lead the investigation into Jeff Gannon that shut down Talon News.

    I didn't email Markos and demand that he get involved. I didn't post a diary saying he should take over the investigation. I didn't email him to put it on the front page (and he didn't, not until he was linking to major news sources that had picked it up from the diaries).

    Hundreds -- literally hundreds -- of Kossacks dove in and did the investigation in the diaries.

    For a second example, look at KagroX's Impeach series and see what can happen when people take on the responsibility of organizing and leading themselves.

    •  here is the deal (none / 0)

      The Patriot Act is going to shut us down if we don't do something fast.

      Don't take it personally, and I'm sorry that my comment inspired that.  I believe we have a very tight crisis right now that needs to be addressed.

      How?  Organize DKos better.  

      I also would not want to conflate my ideas with the diarists in every respect.  But I think the masters of this website need to examine their key roles in the people's voice within the US, as I mentioned in the linked comment in my past answer.

      This country is going into the shredder at the moment.  No one seems to be concerned about the Patriot Act.  The Democratic Party is not going to springboard a counteraction.  Among other shortfalls, the party doesn't even have the money.

      This is why I would say that the diarist has a legitimate call out to Kos and whomsoever else to think about the crisis of the moment in journalism.  It is too late to live out your evolution for the rest of us.  This is not about writers' egos.  This is about effectiveness in speaking out as a dictator takes over.  This is about the media coming out of the ash heap for a last-ditch end run.

      You think you're not going to feel the Patriot Act too?  Guess again, if they get their way.

      We're all in this together.

      •  please (none / 0)

        check this out - relates to our NSA troubles re journalism.
      •  See ... (none / 0)

        already your highlighting a problem here.

        For you, it's the Patriot Act. For the diarist, it's the NSA wiretappings. For women I get emails from, it's the abortion issue. And ALL of this gets topped by the environmentalists who scream that none of this civil liberties crap is worth a flying fuck because we're all going to drown in the next decade, so quit fiddle fucking around.

        And the thing is, they're all right. It takes the individual and collective leadership of us all to make something happen. A handful of leaders won't do it. Believe me, access to "movers and shakers" is highly over-rated. Nothing takes the place of sheer determined and sustained gruntwork and constituency building.

        I guess I'm frustrated because this platform -- Scoop -- is so innovative and so exciting and so democratic (with a little "d" in so many ways), yet few people use it to organize effectively. The whole point of it is, if an issue is important enough to enough people here, they will coalesce and make something happen. This waiting and waiting and waiting for a leader strikes me as almost a sign of illness in our democracy itself.

        I may be over-reacting and feeling frustrated ... do take this with a grain of salt. Really.

        •  OK (none / 0)

          I'll just patch in some of the text from the link I supplied above... because the Patriot Act, journalistically speaking, is like having the water shut off to your home.  All the rest is like the other services, which you can possibly live without.  Do without water, you die.  We are facing the death of journalism:
          Using many of the questionable surveillance and monitoring techniques that brought both questions and criticism to his administration, President George W. Bush has launched a war against reporters who write stories unfavorable to his actions and is planning to prosecute journalists to make examples of them in his "war on terrorism."

          Bush recently directed Attorney General Alberto Gonzales to use "whatever means at your disposal" to wiretap, follow, harass and investigate journalists who have published stories about the administration's illegal use of warrantless wiretaps, use of faulty intelligence and anything else he deems "detrimental to the war on terror."

          Reporters for The New York Times, which along with Capitol Hill Blue revealed use of the National Security Agency to monitor phone calls and emails of Americans, say FBI agents have interviewed them and criminal prosecutors at the Justice Department admit they are laying "the groundwork for a grand jury that could lead to criminal charges,"

          CIA Director Porter Goss told Congress recently that "it is my aim and it is my hope that we will witness a grand jury investigation with reporters present being asked to reveal who is leaking this information.

          part of the investigation, the Justice Department, Department of Homeland Security and the National Security Agency are wiretapping reporters' phones, following journalists on a daily basis, searching their homes and offices under a USA PATRIOT Act provision that allows "secret and undisclosed searches" and pouring over financial and travel records of hundreds of Washington-based reporters.

          Spokesmen for the Justice Department and Department of Homeland Security admit there are "ongoing investigations" regarding publication of stories "involving threats to national security" but will not reveal what those investigations include.

          In addition to using the USA Patriot Act to pry into the lives of journalists, the Justice Department has also dusted off a pre-World War I law to prosecute people who receive classified information, although the law was aimed at military personnel not civilians.

          "This is the first administration that I can remember, including Nixon's, that said we need to think about a law that would put journalists who print national security things up in front of grand juries and put them in jail if they don't reveal their sources," says David Gergen, who served as President Regan's director of communication and also worked in the Nixon and Ford White Houses.

          Political scientist George Harleigh, who worked in the Nixon administration, says such use of federal law enforcement authority was illegal when Nixon tried it and still so today.

          "We're talking about a basic violation of the Constitutional guarantee of a free press as well as a violation of the rights of privacy of American citizens," Harleigh says. "I had hoped we would have learned our lessons from the Nixon era. Sadly, it appears we have not."

          In recent weeks, the FBI has issued hundreds of "National Security Letters," directing employers, banks, credit card companies, libraries and other entities to turn over records on reporters. Under the USA Patriot Act, those who must turn over the records are also prohibited from revealing they have done so to the subject of the federal probes.

          "The significance of this cannot be overstated," says prominent New York litigator Glenn Greenwald. "In essence, while the President sits in the White House undisturbed after proudly announcing that he has been breaking the law and will continue to do so, his slavish political appointees at the Justice Department are using the mammoth law enforcement powers of the federal government to find and criminally prosecute those who brought this illegal conduct to light.

          "This flamboyant use of the forces of criminal prosecution to threaten whistle-blowers and intimidate journalists are nothing more than the naked tactics of street thugs and authoritarian juntas."

        •  I also hate the Patriot Act but it was passed by (none / 0)

          the Congress and signed by the President. I don't agree with it but there is a system and process to change it.

          I do agree that if I were Tsar (or maybe I'd rather Czar) that I'd hear the complaints of enviromentmentalists, animal rights folks, pro pro-lifers and others. Yet none of them or their concerns  attack the foundation that this country is based on: the rule of law under a constitutional system that prescribes a balanced three part system to govern  and protect our rights as citizens.

          The NSA domestic spying program controversy is more important because it goes to allowing the president to violate the rule of law and by doing so cower the congress in reducing their role to supplicant while potentially trampling on our I constitutionally protected rights. We don't know any details on what they are doing and we never will with what is being proposed.

          I feel the other concerns you hear are real and very important but not in the same scale of priority.

          "Bin Laden determined to strike in US"- Presidential Daily Briefing - August 6, 2001

          by What were you thinking on Wed Mar 08, 2006 at 10:12:27 PM PDT

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