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Which Dem would you like to nominate?
by marchmoon on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 04:45:52 PM PDT
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Which dem would I vote for...Clark, clark clark.....Gore doesnt want it...I am tired of all the clintons, and bushes etc. I want someone very smart and knows foreign policy...I want someone with spine, and I want to win...
by bayside on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 05:11:26 PM PDT
Clark hasn't captured me, but it is way early...
by marchmoon on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 07:22:11 PM PDT
I think someone who is likely to beat McCain would be good :) I know this is kind of an unpopular opinion but a recent poll said that Hillary starts with only a 3-point deficit against McCain. I know that does not mean that much, but others are much worse off, and Hillary has virtually no lack of recognition. She also has at her side the greatest, most successful Democratic - hell, any - President of modern times. I think she is a very, very formidable candidate with great star power. She is a woman, although it's kind of odd that women tend not to be very supportive of women, even one potentially the first of her gender to be President.
So, if Hillary wins the nomination, your average kossack is going to be awfully conflicted. They kind of have to support the nominee, right. But there is an awful lot of venom directed against her. And for what? Because she actually thought the the United States Government would not actually tell bald-faced lies to get us into a war? That in fact she did what most Americans did? Is that really such a sin? I think Kossacks are going to have to take a big gulp if Hillary wins, and just suck it up. I am not, by the way, a Hillary fan, or any anyone fan. Just an observation.
Ambition is when you follow your dreams. Insanity is when they follow you.
by Batfish on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 07:31:09 PM PDT
I have to say that I was much more scared of the 2000 McCain than I am of the 2008 McCain. He has sucked up to Bush and his religous minions, and therefore doesn't look so principled anymore.
I have to say that I am not rooting for Hillary AT ALL. She suffers from the same things that brought down Gore and Kerry, which is she triangulates on all the controversial issues and doesn't take a clear stand.
When will they learn that they just need to take a position, state their position, and then stand by their decision?
But, the time for fighting is in the primaries. If she wins the nomination, there will be some grousing, but whoever wins will be who we have to support. But it will be more like opposition to the Repub nominee. Can you imagine President Gingrich?
by marchmoon on Mon Aug 21, 2006 at 08:09:54 PM PDT
does not triangulate. He is as honest and forthright as any politician I have seen.
Please watch this 2000 ad where he talks about global warming, read the debates, watch the MLK-Day speech and show me how and where he "triangulates"?
What brought Gore was Clinton's scandal, media biases, and Nader. He still won anyway.
Evan Bayh is a McCain/Lieberman clone.
by NeuvoLiberal on Tue Aug 22, 2006 at 12:32:01 AM PDT
But his campaign did in 2000. That is all I am saying. And that is why he lost. It was very frustrating to watch because I know that he is so much more than that.
I am all for the Gore who was freed from those bonds.
by marchmoon on Tue Aug 22, 2006 at 08:44:42 AM PDT
and start saying "Yay, Hillary" if she does win; that's all.
by Batfish on Tue Aug 22, 2006 at 09:01:40 AM PDT
And I WANT to see it.
But I have yet to see it. And that makes me sad. If she wins, she will be my candidate.
by marchmoon on Tue Aug 22, 2006 at 09:16:25 AM PDT
wide narrow
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