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  •  Common cause? (1+ / 0-)

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    BarbinMD

    I don't know where you found the link -- I don't know anything about the writer of  the piece either. But, you have really stretched a tortured sentence beyond even that sentence's bizzare connection.

    Here's what it says:

    "The next day, the Jewish Federation of Greater Washington, the Jewish Community Relations Council of Greater Washington, the National Jewish Democratic Council, the Republic Jewish Coalition, the American Jewish Committee and the Israel Project sponsored a rally with Hagee near the White House, according to the JTA. Sen. Sam Brownback (R-Kan.), Maryland Gov. Robert Ehrlich, Rep. Ben Cardin (D-Md.), Rep. Robert Wexler (D-Fla.), Rep. Brad Sherman (D-Calif.), and Rep. Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-Fla.) spoke at the rally."

    So, all those groups sponsored a rally, and this CUIF and Hagee horned in on the action, along with who knows how many other 'sponsors' and speakers.  And all these other politicians also spoke. And somehow, Cardin is making common cause with the three guys you single out for mention. Why not say he's making common cause with Bob Wexler, or Debbie Wasserman Schultz? Because Dems like these two. But, I guess by your reasoning, we shouldn't.

    I'm not even clear whether this Hagee is a sponsor, or a speaker -- all I get is it was a rally "with" him. Heck, maybe he was just in the crowd. Do you take that seriously? Do you think these politicians demand to know who is being considered a  sponsor, or who else will speak? And that they will refuse to speak if they find someone on the list who might be objectionable, if they knew anything about him?

    Common cause? Are there any sane people on this site?

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    by FischFry on Mon Sep 11, 2006 at 11:21:35 PM PDT

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    •  Well fine, I wasn't in Washington that day (0+ / 0-)

      to get the footage myself, and there are apparently no damn reporters left in this country, BUT, this Washington Post article says the following-

      Maryland Gov. Robert L. Ehrlich Jr. (R), U.S. Sen. Sam Brownback (R-Kan.), Israeli Ambassador Daniel Ayalon and the Rev. John C. Hagee were among those who roused multiple rounds of applause by saying Israel's attacks against the Shiite Muslim group Hezbollah were blows against those who have killed civilians from Bali to Bombay to Moscow.

      So assumedly Hagee was one of the speakers, it's hard to get applause from a crowd if you're not.

      The real question here is what are ANY of these people doing on anything with even a WHIFF of Hagee connected to it? Oh, yeah right, silly me, Hagee is a massive fundraiser for Israel- never mind his Christian apocolyptic reasons why.

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      by stormcoming on Mon Sep 11, 2006 at 11:58:03 PM PDT

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      •  Still working on finding you a citation (0+ / 0-)

        this link will take you to Democracynow.org which has an audio up of Hagee speaking they describe thuly-

        ...first, we hear from Christians United for Israel. Their inaugural event was held last month in Washington, DC. More than 3,000 people were in attendance to hear speeches from Israeli and American dignitaries.

        ...

        The group's founder, Texas television evangelist John Hagee, also spoke.

        • John Hagee, speaking at a Christians United for Israel summit in July 2006. [Click for mp3 of full address].

        As to whether this was the exact same podium shared by Ben Cardin or not I cannot determine. I would assume this audio is from Hagee's CUFI dinner, not the Freedom Plaza event that were both part of the "summit", both are mentioned in the Washington Post link.

        Per the post article, Cardin spoke at at least one event connected to this summit, however.

        As for Hagee's role in the 'summit' the Washington Post article had this to say-

        Although Jewish community groups called for the rally, one of the most active advocates for Israel was Hagee, televangelist and pastor of the 18,000-member Cornerstone Church in San Antonio. His recently formed Christians United for Israel held an inaugural dinner Tuesday night

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        by stormcoming on Tue Sep 12, 2006 at 12:28:53 AM PDT

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        •  Will a page from one of the rally co-sponsors, (0+ / 0-)

          Jewish Federation of Greater Washington, do as a citation?

          solidarity rally announcement that says both John Hagee and Ben Cardin were confirmed speakers for the Freedom Plaza event.

          The local Jewish community will show its unity in support of its brothers and sisters in Israel with a rally that will include Jewish leaders, local elected officials and others. Confirmed speakers include: the Honorable Daniel Ayalon, Israel Ambassador to the United States, U.S. Sen. Sam Brownback (R-Kan.), U.S. Congressman Ben Cardin (D-Md), U.S. Congressman Robert Wexler (D-Fla), and Rev. John Hagee, National Chairman, Christians United for Israel.

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          by stormcoming on Tue Sep 12, 2006 at 12:42:51 AM PDT

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          •  And finally confirmation that they both spoke (0+ / 0-)

            from after the event had finnshed from another organizational co-sponsor of the event,

            the Jewish Community Relations Council of Greater Washington

            go to the homepage, in the upper left hand corner click "DC Rally: America Stands with Israel". You'll be taken to a page that contains this-

            Speakers at the rally included His Excellency Daniel Ayalon - Ambassador of Israel, Senator Sam Brownback (R-KS), Congressman Ben Cardin (D-MD), Congressman Brad Sherman (D-CA), Congressman Robert Wexler (D-FL), Congresswoman Debbie Wasserman Schultz (D-FL), Governor Robert Ehrlich, Reverend John Hagee, Rabbi Stuart Weinblatt and Rabbi Levi Shemtov. Irene Kaplan, President and Dr. Misha Galperin, Vice President & CEO represented the Jewish Federation of Greater Washington. Susan Weinberg, President and Ron Halber, Executive Director represented the JCRC.

            That's about all I have time for tonight, hope you don't mind me not sticking around to answer further.

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            by stormcoming on Tue Sep 12, 2006 at 12:50:32 AM PDT

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