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  •  You know, it wasn't long ago (1+ / 0-)

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    that many lefties vehemently supported the Kurds and the Kurdish desire for a homeland.

    What is one of the main charges against Saddam?  His gassing of the Kurds.

    From my understanding (I haven't been to "Kurdistan," only listened at symposiums or to others) many of Kurds have blondish hair and green eyes.

    Turkey has approved building a dam that will result in the destruction of a vast portion of the Kurdish area there in Turkey.

    Yet, here we are, many will disagree with this aid --simply because it is Israel.

    Our... constitutional heritage rebels at the thought of giving government the power to control men's minds. Thurgood Marshall

    by bronte17 on Thu Sep 21, 2006 at 12:18:04 PM PDT

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    •  Can't speak for anyone else but, (1+ / 0-)

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      objection to Israel's military aid to the Kurds makes sense seeing as how Iraqis and the Iraqi government don't like Israel and as of 9/21/06, a UN recognized Kurdistan does not exist. Iraqis don't like us either, but they for damn sure don't like Israel. Does the Iraqi gov't even recognize Israel? This kind of thing really makes things worse in Iraq and for Iraqis and for us.

      Not good...

      The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world She didn't exist.

      by callmecassandra on Thu Sep 21, 2006 at 12:46:48 PM PDT

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      •  Like I said, it's funny how things have changed (0+ / 0-)

        now.

        If bush hadn't illegally invaded Iraq and occupied and destroyed that country, I'd bet you would be arguing that we should step up and help the Kurds  gain their freedom from under Saddam's yoke. That topic was on many many liberal lips for many many years.  

        The Kurds, the Zapatistas, the Palestinians.

        But, now you change your tune.

        Our... constitutional heritage rebels at the thought of giving government the power to control men's minds. Thurgood Marshall

        by bronte17 on Thu Sep 21, 2006 at 05:04:19 PM PDT

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        •  Don't generalize. (1+ / 0-)

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          I'm not 'you', I'm Cassandra.

          What does Israel arming Kurds have to do with Kurd's liberation from Iraq? Did I somehow make mention that Kurds shouldn't seek liberation from Iraq? I would no more say that about the Kurds than I would about the Palestinians...But just as you may object to Palestinians receiving weapons from Iraq under Saddam or Iran, I have the same problem with Kurds receiving weapons from Israel.

          It's not good...both Kurds and Palestinians are being used by regional powers and it's only the Kurds and Palestinians who will suffer for it, not Israel and not Iran, neither governments care about the welfare of the Kurds or the Palestinians (note that I said governments). So yes of course, I object. And what Israel is doing now re arming the Kurds will make things worse in Iraq. That's a fact and has nothing to do with whether one believes Kurds should or shouldn't have their own state.

          The greatest trick the devil ever pulled was convincing the world She didn't exist.

          by callmecassandra on Thu Sep 21, 2006 at 06:29:01 PM PDT

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          •  Ah, well, I won't invoke your name (0+ / 0-)

            but it isn't as insulting as "you" let on.

            And, hold your pretensions close.  It will make you feel good.

            I have to move on now in the real world.

            Our... constitutional heritage rebels at the thought of giving government the power to control men's minds. Thurgood Marshall

            by bronte17 on Fri Sep 22, 2006 at 08:22:38 AM PDT

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