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The .sig is true. Hillary's triangulation and lack of leadership is massively unappealing now. I can only imagine how bad it's going to get when she's playing in the general.
If the candidates cannot be criticized during primary season we might as well cancel that idea and just wait for the Party Leaders to tell us who to vote for.
Joe Scarborough
by slippytoad on Sun Nov 11, 2007 at 09:21:31 AM PDT
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critizing the candidates. There are a lot of issues where criticism is warranted, needed and wanted.
Sorry, if people want to play that right wing game, the "we can't elect so and so because they really hate her" then I would say that is the worst kind of capitulation of all. I refuse to be a part of that .....EVER. If I choose to vote or not vote for a candidate it will be about the issues, NOT about whether or not the right wing threatens...
by Jjc2006 on Sun Nov 11, 2007 at 09:52:28 AM PDT
and the mass who might not approve 100% of HRC, and will be swayed by the Reptillians. The important thing is getting a Democrat President into the WH, almost getting one into the WH would be a disaster. We dont need another '04 with a lacklustre candidate easily smeared, or exposed (if her lobbyist friends deliberately rat her out, for their real friends) by the RMSM.
Morality is the single most important issue.
by Ferrofluid on Sun Nov 11, 2007 at 11:07:19 AM PDT
it's not JUST the far right who hate her--so do the lukewarm right--over 40 % STRONGLY disapprove of her--that's incredibly high for any candidate to overcome.
And the smear machine and rightwing machine haven't even started in yet. By the time thye're done, all those depressed Republicans and conservative independents who would probably sit on their hands rather than vote for a Mormon or social 'liberal' like Rudy will be raging to get out to the polls.
Your candidate takes what should be a walk in the park election and makes a real fight with her being the odds on favorite to LOSE.
You don't think I should perhaps mention that on a political blog? You think it's a Republican talking point? Fuck off, jjc2006--it's a fucking Hillary campaign talking point to paint it as such.
That's exactly why it's on my sig line and going to stay there. BTW, you guys also need to know that it's your candidate's pro-centrist positions (ala the DLC boneheads like Al From and Bob Shrum) that have been the nation thinking the Democratics are a bunch of spineless cowards.
Why do you think our congressional numbers are in the tiolet? Because we're not standing up to Bush on economics and appointments, we're enabling on Iran, and we're not getting out of Iraq.
And Hillary is really helping that by voting for Kyl Lieberman, isn't she? Or by conveniently missing the Mukasey torture confirmation, or by being a coward and refusing to apologize for her ignorant and arrogant Iraqi War Authorization vote, right?
Lose my sig? Not bloody fucking likely--because I happen to care about this country more than some punk ass candidate who seems utterly incapable of simply delivering a straight answer.
Much less be a fucking leader.
by DelicateMonster on Sun Nov 11, 2007 at 11:16:11 AM PDT
We need moral candidates that are willing to stand up and be strong, upholders of the Constitution and international law ,their voices heard for the people, and not pale Reptillian clones despairingly trying to be safe for the RW who would never vote for them anyway.
by Ferrofluid on Sun Nov 11, 2007 at 11:24:43 AM PDT
PLEASE keep repeating this.
they are holding their fire now in the hope that we will nominate her. THEN the long knives will come out.
right now the wingnuts are falling all over themselves to "praise" her and pump the inevitability meme as much as they can. I have not heard any right winger of stature say anything negative about Hillary in the last six months. and this is after years of non-stop Hillary bashing by the VRWC.
they are praying that we nominate her so that they can throw all the mud they have been saving up since 1992 and earlier. she will help them raise money hand over fist. i am worried about this, even though I like her personally.
i love your sig line. it is the truth.
Politics is like driving. To go backward, put it in R. To go forward, put it in D.
by TrueBlueMajority on Sun Nov 11, 2007 at 12:46:58 PM PDT
Fuck off,
You've made it clear enough why debate is impossible with some.
Have a nice day.
by Jjc2006 on Sun Nov 11, 2007 at 02:10:22 PM PDT
folks writing on this blog....all of us swear--sometimes to excess, but most of us swear and back it up with valid points. Hillarites just swear, resort to ad hominems or whine.
Not a valid fact, point or argument on the misty horizon, jjc2006...of course, being a supporter of the utterly compromised Hillary makes it tough to articulate the well formed argument. Best stick to the swearing and sign offs without worrying too much about that in between stuff.
by DelicateMonster on Sun Nov 11, 2007 at 02:32:00 PM PDT
wide narrow
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