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  •  You're missing my point (2+ / 0-)

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    esquimaux, Ferrofluid

    it's not JUST the far right who hate her--so do the lukewarm right--over 40 % STRONGLY disapprove of her--that's incredibly high for any candidate to overcome.

    And the smear machine and rightwing machine haven't even started in yet. By the time thye're done, all those depressed Republicans and conservative independents who would probably sit on their hands rather than vote for a Mormon or social 'liberal' like Rudy will be raging to get out to the polls.

    Your candidate takes what should be a walk in the park election and makes a real fight with her being the odds on favorite to LOSE.

    You don't think I should perhaps mention that on a political blog? You think it's a Republican talking point? Fuck off, jjc2006--it's a fucking Hillary campaign talking point to paint it as such.

    That's exactly why it's on my sig line and going to stay there. BTW, you guys also need to know that it's your candidate's pro-centrist positions (ala the DLC boneheads like Al From and Bob Shrum) that have been the nation thinking the Democratics are a bunch of spineless cowards.

    Why do you think our congressional numbers are in the tiolet? Because we're not standing up to Bush on economics and appointments, we're enabling on Iran, and we're not  getting out of Iraq.

    And Hillary is really helping that by voting for Kyl Lieberman, isn't she? Or by conveniently missing the Mukasey torture confirmation, or by being a coward and refusing to apologize for her ignorant and arrogant Iraqi War Authorization vote, right?

    Lose my sig? Not bloody fucking likely--because I happen to care about this country more than some punk ass candidate who seems utterly incapable of simply delivering a straight answer.

    Much less be a fucking leader.

    •  well said DM (2+ / 0-)

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      DelicateMonster, esquimaux

      We need moral candidates that are willing to stand up and be strong, upholders of the Constitution and international law ,their voices heard for the people, and not pale Reptillian clones despairingly trying to be safe for the RW who would never vote for them anyway.

      Morality is the single most important issue.

      by Ferrofluid on Sun Nov 11, 2007 at 11:24:43 AM PDT

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    •  "the smear machine hasn;t started yet" (1+ / 0-)

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      DelicateMonster

      PLEASE keep repeating this.

      they are holding their fire now in the hope that we will nominate her.  THEN the long knives will come out.

      right now the wingnuts are falling all over themselves to "praise" her and pump the inevitability meme as much as they can. I have not heard any right winger of stature say anything negative about Hillary in the last six months.  and this is after years of non-stop Hillary bashing by the VRWC.

      they are praying that we nominate her so that they can throw all the mud they have been saving up since 1992 and earlier.  she will help them raise money hand over fist.  i am worried about this, even though I like her personally.

      i love your sig line.  it is the truth.

      Politics is like driving. To go backward, put it in R. To go forward, put it in D.
      89 days until the '08 elections. Let's paint the country BLUE!

      by TrueBlueMajority on Sun Nov 11, 2007 at 12:46:58 PM PDT

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    •  Back at you... (0+ / 0-)

      Fuck off,

      You've made it clear enough why debate is impossible with some.

      Have a nice day.

      •  That's the difference between Hillarites and most (0+ / 0-)

        folks writing on this blog....all of us swear--sometimes to excess, but most of us swear and back it up with valid points. Hillarites just swear, resort to ad hominems or whine.

        Not a valid fact, point or argument on the misty horizon, jjc2006...of course, being a supporter of the utterly compromised Hillary makes it tough to articulate the well formed argument. Best stick to the swearing and sign offs without worrying too much about that in between stuff.

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