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I'll take his word for it.
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by djtyg on Fri Nov 02, 2007 at 11:35:27 AM PDT
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It's the method that is different. If you let them eat at the table...well, forward to 1:30 for his answer.
Don't put words in his mouth about the methods being the same.
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by chuckles1 on Fri Nov 02, 2007 at 11:58:14 AM PDT
He said it himself. Also, you're now grasping at a straw since I cleared up everything in your diary. Most of Hillary's donations concerning healthcare didn't come from insurance, the MSM chanting that insurance companies joining the Dems is total b.s., and that even Edwards has received money from the insurance industry.
Talking about how two people are going to get to the same conclusion is a waste of time.
by djtyg on Fri Nov 02, 2007 at 12:02:41 PM PDT
I don't think Hillary will ever get to any reasonable plan on health care by kissing up to the insurance companies.
by chuckles1 on Fri Nov 02, 2007 at 12:04:03 PM PDT
Still, there's no guarantee that Edwards won't do that, either. I HOPE he wouldn't, but you never know.
by djtyg on Fri Nov 02, 2007 at 12:06:31 PM PDT
If you're going to bash Hillary, do it because of Iraq or some other logical reason.
by djtyg on Fri Nov 02, 2007 at 12:03:21 PM PDT
She wants to accept money from big oil, big pharm, big health care, big insurance, etc - then people deserve to know that is who she is.
If you consider it bashing, then I would suggest she is not the candidate for you.
by chuckles1 on Fri Nov 02, 2007 at 12:04:54 PM PDT
Most of the money on healthcare hasn't come from insurance companies, and more insurance money has been given to the Repugs.
by djtyg on Fri Nov 02, 2007 at 12:07:29 PM PDT
If you checked the links I provided, you'd see that Oil and Pharmacueticals aren't even in her top list of contributors. She hasn't received much, if any, money from them.
by djtyg on Fri Nov 02, 2007 at 12:10:31 PM PDT
The Center for Responsive Politics in Washington, D.C., reports Clinton has received more than $500,000 this year from federal lobbyists. Edwards has taken no money from lobbyists, but the center's Web site, www.opensecrets.org, confirms his campaign has gotten large amounts from industry sectors that employ federal lobbyists that, in the aggregate, gave him $6.5 million. ... "Either you lobby the federal government or you don't. Either you are paid to influence legislation and the people who write it or you're not. The line is clear and only murky for those who are trying to blur it," Schultz said.
The Center for Responsive Politics in Washington, D.C., reports Clinton has received more than $500,000 this year from federal lobbyists.
Edwards has taken no money from lobbyists, but the center's Web site, www.opensecrets.org, confirms his campaign has gotten large amounts from industry sectors that employ federal lobbyists that, in the aggregate, gave him $6.5 million.
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"Either you lobby the federal government or you don't. Either you are paid to influence legislation and the people who write it or you're not. The line is clear and only murky for those who are trying to blur it," Schultz said.
by chuckles1 on Fri Nov 02, 2007 at 06:09:21 PM PDT
They [Obama and Edwards] still take money from state lobbyists. They make no attempt to distinguish between lobbyists for big corporations and lobbyists for small non-profits. They treat a lobbyist for Haliburton in the same way as a lobbyist for child poverty or cancer research. They accept money from former lobbyists and future lobbyists. As Clinton has pointed out, her rivals have no problem taking money from the people who pay the lobbyists, and give them their "marching orders." (ABC News debate, August 19, 2007.) They have no problem about taking money from people representing other "special interests," e.g. trial lawyers and the hedge fund industry. So far this year, according to Opensecrets.org, Edwards has taken more than $8 million from lawyers and law firms, some of whom employ the federally-registered lobbyists whose lucre he refuses to touch.
They [Obama and Edwards] still take money from state lobbyists.
They make no attempt to distinguish between lobbyists for big corporations and lobbyists for small non-profits. They treat a lobbyist for Haliburton in the same way as a lobbyist for child poverty or cancer research.
They accept money from former lobbyists and future lobbyists.
As Clinton has pointed out, her rivals have no problem taking money from the people who pay the lobbyists, and give them their "marching orders." (ABC News debate, August 19, 2007.)
They have no problem about taking money from people representing other "special interests," e.g. trial lawyers and the hedge fund industry.
So far this year, according to Opensecrets.org, Edwards has taken more than $8 million from lawyers and law firms, some of whom employ the federally-registered lobbyists whose lucre he refuses to touch.
Just because he doesn't take money from Washington lobbyists doesn't mean that he hasn't taken money from lobbyists at all. And opensecrets has shown that he's received over $20,000 from them.
Aside from that, you yourself said that Edwards took over a half a million from the insurance industry. I'M SAYING IT WAS LESS. I don't get why you want to tell me he did take a large sum of money a few hours prior, only to now be saying he hasn't taken a dime.
by djtyg on Fri Nov 02, 2007 at 10:45:45 PM PDT
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