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Here's to the Left now having an apparatus that responds quickly when the MSM try to get away with this kind of crap.
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by psericks on Fri Nov 30, 2007 at 08:07:01 AM PDT
How do you know a Republican is lying? Ask one: If the Republicans can lower gas prices for 60 days before an election, why won't they do it all the time?
by ca democrat on Fri Nov 30, 2007 at 08:14:01 AM PDT
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This was an excellent piece. Factual analysis that slices through the rumors like a knife - the true virtue of reason.
P.S. It also shows how far critics try to go to find dirt when there isnt any there.
by phillyprogressive08 on Fri Nov 30, 2007 at 10:02:09 AM PDT
I am really amazed the editor did not bust it about the Snopes piece. Snopes is a go to site for debunking urban myths and viral emails. I have used it to break the news for my wingnut step dad and for friends on the left (who cited the bogus bit about W from Reagan's bio). The frame in the article is not to use SNopes in this way at all but rather as a site which posted one of the rumors, and as someone else noted IMMEDIATELY BLEW IT AWAY.
The whole piece was just awful, awful, awful, and I have lots of appreciation for Atrios' way of spanking young Mr. Bacon (who as the above link shows was just six years ago a Yale junior interning at the WaPo). This of course makes one wonder how valuable a Yale education is-I mean how can someone amenable to such obviously weak intellectual effort make it so high..., er, oh yea there is W isn't there....
Incidentally, Young Bacon has shown his journamalism skills off previously in a notably bad and poorly examined piece on the netroots eviscerated by Stirling Newberry here.
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by dlcox1958 on Fri Nov 30, 2007 at 12:25:09 PM PDT
as journalists. Six years experience huh? it really shows BTW, not that a 20 something can't be very good, but the lack of scope and range and historical amnesia is all over this guy.
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by Pete Rock on Fri Nov 30, 2007 at 12:46:54 PM PDT
I am thinking Perry Bacon jr wanted to "be a journalist" but the 2007 edition of the washington Post wants journamalists! I didn't know the links were for various rumor tripe, but not for the "snopes.com" comment which in spite of its popularity is probably unrecognized by 90% or more of the voting public.
by Pete Rock on Fri Nov 30, 2007 at 01:09:18 PM PDT
Obviously young-ones can do well at this game and that is not the issue per se. I just wanted to tweak Bacon a bit here.
by dlcox1958 on Fri Nov 30, 2007 at 03:55:13 PM PDT
This link in conjunction with Snopes is all you need.
by Shem on Fri Nov 30, 2007 at 01:28:40 PM PDT
Shame the Washington Post.
Talk to Action
by Troutfishing on Fri Nov 30, 2007 at 02:24:35 PM PDT
...that a Yale education is no guarantee of intelligence or integrity...
"There is nothing false about hope." -- Barack Obama
by DC Pol Sci on Fri Nov 30, 2007 at 05:13:37 PM PDT
(I think it's Gerald Ford I'm paraphrasing) ...she'd be rolling over in her grave. I didn't read the WaPo back in the early 70s, I don't know if I would ever have recognized it as being on my side; but the past few years have been atrocious.
Overturn Bush v. Gore II, Impeach the R. A. T. S.
by Judge Moonbox on Fri Nov 30, 2007 at 07:21:46 PM PDT
We're retiring Steve LaTourette (R-Family Values for You But Not for Me) and sending Judge Bill O'Neill to Congress from Ohio-14: http://www.oneill08.com/
by anastasia p on Fri Nov 30, 2007 at 09:12:35 PM PDT
do you have a link to the threat with her comment? Or is it a diary?
by Heart of the Rockies on Fri Nov 30, 2007 at 04:37:14 PM PDT
wow--that's a great sig line...
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by TrueBlueMajority on Fri Nov 30, 2007 at 05:03:29 PM PDT
right hand column is blank here. Anyone know why? Thanks for all the facts here. Facts are great little things, and apparently not important to the poor excuse of a journalist at the Wash. Post. (Bad Bacon) I don't even understand how that shoddy, damaging piece of writing got approval for the front page. What's wrong with the editors there? This was just a great example of how far down our "traditional news media" has fallen in their journalistic duty of reporting The Truth.
by dotster on Fri Nov 30, 2007 at 08:37:18 AM PDT
You'll find the "recommend" tab.
I think it has to do with pserick's formatting.
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by Yoshimi on Fri Nov 30, 2007 at 09:23:41 AM PDT
below the comments, or select permalink and scroll down just below the bottom of the diary. ```` peace
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by peace voter on Fri Nov 30, 2007 at 09:25:14 AM PDT
by phillyprogressive08 on Fri Nov 30, 2007 at 10:03:08 AM PDT
Page.
by Pirate Smile on Fri Nov 30, 2007 at 09:35:56 AM PDT
Government and laws are the agreement we all make to secure everyone's freedom.
by Simplify on Fri Nov 30, 2007 at 12:36:42 PM PDT
...a FP post on it yesterday. In fact, the Media Matters story mentions me. ;-)
link
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by BarbinMD on Fri Nov 30, 2007 at 03:56:52 PM PDT
This POS Perry Bacon article deserves more sustained calumny than the Joke Line column did. Klein is nothing but a gasbag, but a front-page article in WaPo (as opposed to the execrable editorial page) is still prime real estate for the opinion makers.
It appears that a new front in the war between Left critics and the big boys of traditional media has opened up. With both Time and WaPo on the defensive over reprehensible journalistic malfeasances, we may finally be getting some traction. Having the CJR come in on our side is very significant in Bubble World: their opinions count where ours don't.
I hope you and the other Big Kidz keep this story alive as long as possible. A sustained campaign of shaming these lazy big-timers will be necessary if anything is ever to change. You're one of the best media critics out there, so I look forward to more.
Hanoi didn't break John McCain, but Washington did.
by Dallasdoc on Fri Nov 30, 2007 at 04:22:32 PM PDT
I'm working on a follow-up that I'll be posting tonight or tomorrow morning.
by BarbinMD on Fri Nov 30, 2007 at 04:48:58 PM PDT
Will look forward to reading it.
by Dallasdoc on Fri Nov 30, 2007 at 04:56:57 PM PDT
by psericks on Fri Nov 30, 2007 at 05:05:46 PM PDT
beyond the lies, beyond the distortions, beyond WaPo's pre-school level "reporting":
Being Muslim shouldn't matter!!!!!
I am not Muslim and I am absolutely outraged. I cannot imagine how my Muslim brethren must feel right now. How can anyone feel safe with tripe like this eminating from a formerly respected media source?
To my Muslim brethren: I apologize to the Muslim community. I am ashamed and embarrassed for my country and what it has become. I'm sorry for the harassment you might endure. I am sorry that you are caught up in the foulest, ugliest forms of hatred and bias. I never in my wildest dreams imagined that my country, that my "free press" could stoop to such a despicable level. I am truly sorry.
To my Muslim brethren:
I apologize to the Muslim community. I am ashamed and embarrassed for my country and what it has become. I'm sorry for the harassment you might endure. I am sorry that you are caught up in the foulest, ugliest forms of hatred and bias. I never in my wildest dreams imagined that my country, that my "free press" could stoop to such a despicable level.
I am truly sorry.
"You can count on Americans to do the right thing after they've tried everything else." -- Winston Churchill
by bleeding heart on Fri Nov 30, 2007 at 09:37:32 AM PDT
try substituting "jewish" for muslim...This is reminiscent of the worst of our histories.
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by DemocracyLover in NYC on Fri Nov 30, 2007 at 06:48:47 PM PDT
Obama comes from "a black man who married a white woman." Shades of Harold Ford? Is Bacon so tone deaf he doesn't know the race baiting inherent in the phrase "black man and white woman"? Bacon couldn't have left it at "mixed race parentage"? And the tortured path Bacon had to crawl to work in "black man and white woman" into a story ostensibly about the Muslim angle!!
This was a hit piece/smear job from the get go. Bet on it: the Post will try to do with the Demo candidate exactly what they did to Kerry and Gore.
Thank goodness Keith Olbermann and Glenn Greenwald are not "trained" journalists. You know, trained like circus animals.
by media whores on Fri Nov 30, 2007 at 09:57:26 AM PDT
n/t
by crazynewmusic on Fri Nov 30, 2007 at 11:55:52 AM PDT
exactly?
by Timothy J on Fri Nov 30, 2007 at 12:56:11 PM PDT
by crazynewmusic on Fri Nov 30, 2007 at 05:45:06 PM PDT
of similarly poor outlook. Since when has the color of one's skin been the indicator of anything other than...the color of one's skin.
by Uncle Bob on Fri Nov 30, 2007 at 01:03:17 PM PDT
the race baiting has only just begun...
by TrueBlueMajority on Fri Nov 30, 2007 at 05:06:03 PM PDT
All the mouthbreathers know Muslims think dogs are unclean, so the comment about Obama being "dogged" by rumors probably came tripped lightly off the keyboard of some Coulteresque GOP operative onto the pages of the Post as is.
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by darrelplant on Fri Nov 30, 2007 at 09:59:07 AM PDT
by phillyprogressive08 on Fri Nov 30, 2007 at 10:04:19 AM PDT
I just realized that I went to college with the author of this article. He lived in my dorm (same entryway, even), and graduated in my year. He's not a bad guy at all, and I don't recall him being an ideologue. It sounds like he just f'ed up, and the WaPo editors enabled it. (or, perhaps, encouraged it.)
by crazynewmusic on Fri Nov 30, 2007 at 11:54:21 AM PDT
they've done this:
sounds like he just f'ed up, and the WaPo editors enabled it. (or, perhaps, encouraged it.)
The WaPo editors - and what beacons of journalistic integrity and fairness they are.
by Timothy J on Fri Nov 30, 2007 at 12:59:12 PM PDT
And the bigger point is why put this poof peice on the front page?
Bacon could have turned in a peice that unequivically called the rumors lies and had the editors change it. And my understanding is that writers don't write the headlines, so the misleading headline coupled with the poorly worded article could be entirely the fault of the editors.
Why does this matter? Well, I heard a rumor that the entire editorial starr at the WaPo is addicted to Oxycontin, and that their dealer is none other than Rush Limbaugh.
Bang Babby! Did I just earn my tinfoil hat or what!
by nisleib on Fri Nov 30, 2007 at 01:30:42 PM PDT
an utter disgrace. completely unacceptable + inexcusable. freepin bs.
Go Barack Obama
by concerned on Fri Nov 30, 2007 at 03:39:02 PM PDT
travesty as journalistic travesty. Nothing in this article qualifies it for a college newspaper. The WaPo news editors decided to lead with it.
What we should determine is whose editorial oversight this was.
Show of hands... who would join Kucinich's effort to impeach VP Cheney?
by Mogolori on Fri Nov 30, 2007 at 04:10:34 PM PDT
sorry, he went to Yale as did you so please spare us the pathetic excuse and spare me the "he's not a bad guy " routine. Oh , and by the way, Clarence Thomas also went to Yale (law) so maybe your acquaintance has a hero and role model. whether or not he's a bad guy does not matter, what matters is that he's a lousy journalist who has written a piece with no regard for the truth and is left quoting people from south carolina, for god's sake, about what it means to be a muslim.
But forgive me, I did not go to Yale so perhaps I am just basing my assumption about the number of academic experts on the the moslem religion in SC on my numerous trips through SC to buy fireworks and simply never knew of the experts on the moslem religion that live there.
by virginia cynic on Fri Nov 30, 2007 at 02:40:44 PM PDT
by concerned on Fri Nov 30, 2007 at 05:10:54 PM PDT
this level of clarification available here.
Thanks!
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by mooshter on Fri Nov 30, 2007 at 05:20:17 PM PDT
wide narrow
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