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  •  Wait a damn minute (3+ / 0-)
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    brentmack, Hens Teeth, uscitizenvoter

    organizing an economy around the nation state is doomed in the face of advances in transportation, information and communication.

    I'm not entirely disagreeing with you. The advantages, though, or using nation-states as intermediary vehicles for negotiating trade is that there are representatives calling the shots who are responsive to the needs of people. You have different regional interests which should be protected. I like to protect my local wildlife more than some guy in Peru wants to protect my wildlife, and vice versa. You can insert 'labor protections' for 'wildlife' or 'consumer safety' or whatever. The fact is... people don't give a flying fuck about people they can't see. That's the upside to regionalism. Protectionism isn't a terrible thing in and of itself.

    This ballot is loaded, and I'm not afraid to use it.

    by BlueGenes on Tue Nov 06, 2007 at 10:56:13 AM PST

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    •  I'll grant you that concern (0+ / 0-)

      Its certainly a lot easier for me to care about pollution in a river in my town than pollution in a river in China.  This is true and I'll grant you that this is a drawback of trade, but I think you are missing what I'm saying.  I'm not saying that everything about trade is good.  I'm just saying that overall it increased economic growth, and more to the point, increased trade is inevitable.

      So we need to think of ways to deal with the problems associated with increased trade (including the one you hightlighted), but we railing agrainst free trade is beside the point.  Its here to stay.

      Inhofe is a wacko with a 46% approval rating: He's vulnerable.

      by tmendoza on Tue Nov 06, 2007 at 11:42:48 AM PST

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      •  How big do you want to grow? (3+ / 0-)
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        Hens Teeth, uscitizenvoter, BlueGenes

        I'm just saying that overall it increased economic growth

        What is enough?

        When the last icecap has melted, when the last drop of oil is gone, when the last glass of potable water is gone, will you then concede that 'growth' should not be the holy grail of all human endeavor?

        <div style="font-size:10px;text-align:center;background-color:#ffd;color:#f33">If the terriers and bariffs are torn down, this economy will grow - G. Bush

        by superscalar on Tue Nov 06, 2007 at 12:01:15 PM PST

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