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  •  State's rights is not pro-choice. (5+ / 0-)

    It is political expediency,  They know damn well once this Ammendment gets out of the bag, not only will it fail, but all their other conservative wet dreams will be washed away.  State's right's is a ghost, a shadow, it is meaningless, the same shadow used to put off the civil war for the first hundred years of our nation.

    The state has a right to protect you from encroaching federalism, it does not have the right to infringe on (civil and other) rights the federal government affords you.  

    The only thing they ever see when it comes to abortion is the "loose" woman who who deserves whatever she gets.   They aren't pro-life, these people tend to make the lives of young single moms and their kids miserable and bleak.  Do you think they ever offer to babysit for a young mother?  Maybe offer a scholarship for young mom who chooses to have her kid? How about setting up an afternoon program for kids in low-income neighborhoods where the women who have chosen their way suffer every day looking at their kids face and hoping they can feed them for the next week.

    •  Agreed... (1+ / 0-)

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      Spoc42

      Truly pro-life people are:

      1. Anti-war
      1. Pro Contaception and family planning education
      1. Pro liberalization of adoption laws (yes that includes Gays & Lesbians
      1. Pro- Health care for children

      Those are the types of positions that truly reduce abortions

      Obama/Whoever He Chooses '08 Winning Change for America and the Democratic Party

      by dvogel001 on Tue Nov 06, 2007 at 04:52:55 AM PDT

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      •  My mantra (0+ / 0-)

        "If they put the time, energy, and money in to helping people that they put in to abortion politics this country would be in great shape.  But what do we have at this point?..."

        "I'm not sure my snark shovel will stand up to that load." Crashing Vor

        by tobendaro on Tue Nov 06, 2007 at 05:16:48 AM PDT

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      •  You forgot the flip side... (1+ / 0-)

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        Those pro-life people are evangelical nuts with some distorted concept of reality.

        If a woman conceives and has a still born child, is that murder? Or if a woman, (while pregnant) has a drink, is it then right for someone from these lunatics to jail her for abuse?

        Where is the line drawn for a persons' rights? I UNEQUVICALLY DO NOT believe in abortion; however, I DO believe in a person's right to choose. I would pray that there is a place where there is no judgement of that choice! You know, something like a church that is not motivated by political agendas? That practices the philosophy of God's teaching, and not man's?

        But, with pharmacists reefusing to hand out prescriptions because of their beliefs (who should be jailed!), or religious fools blowing up clinics and proposing murder as an alternative, I see why this country is in trouble!

        These evengelical nuts are:

        1. Pro-Terrorists (willing to blow up abortion clinics and other institutions)
        1. Pro-Facists (willing to block anothers legal right to contraception and clinics who furnish these services)
        1. Pro-Murderers (willing to kill in the name of God (truly outrageous) and somehow convince themselves that it doesn't apply in this case)
        1. Pro-Myopic (is all or nothing, yet, for those that DO sin (i.e. Larry Craig, Mark Foley, Ted Haggard, etc) it is not an offense because they can ask for forgiveness)
        1. Anti-Religious (because with all their rhetoric, there is NOTHING that states when life begins. Conception begins with knowledge, and therefore it can happen anytime you have sex. Still, what do they propose? A moratorium on sex until the couple is sure?)

        Try as they will, they can p[ray for 24 hours a day, attend every church mass, hell they can give all their money to Pat Robbersome (oops, Robertson), that still will not get them into their intended goal, because one sin, no matter how slight negates all that they are working for! Now, THAT myopic view is clearly detailed in the very commandments that they BEAT people over the head with daily!!!

        As I said, I DON'T condone abortion, but can clearly see a use for it? Just take a look at the current president!

        Case closed!

        "I'm fed up to the ears with old men dreaming up wars for young men to die in." - George McGovern

        by IraqVeteran on Tue Nov 06, 2007 at 05:53:04 AM PDT

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    •  Good Point, Lilorphant (0+ / 0-)

      I heard Tucker Carlson ranting today about how Thompson's position meant that he is fully "pro-choice". It means nothing of the sort. If it were left to the states, abortion rights would be decimated. Even if it weren't outright banned, it would be chipped away with so many regulations and constraints that it might as well be banned.

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