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Yesterday Larry Johnson posted an article about the tapes and showed a picture from the Korean war where the subject was laying on the ground with a burlap bag over his face and a soldier pouring water from a canteen. A canteen full of water spilling onto the face is not going to do any damage, but I doubt this was the technique that was used against the Arab prisoners, it was more like what the author of this post said. The cia guy said the suspect started talking after about 35 seconds. Yeah, that was how long they took to fill his lungs with water. But, could he still talk? And are these people still living?
by Ryland Chapel on Wed Dec 12, 2007 at 07:50:38 AM PDT
and if someone suffered a heart attack? Well, he was a bad guy. Torture in all its forms is illegal and unjustified. All those stupid "Terrorist Alerts" that are no longer being used since Bush stole his second "mandate" are evidence that torture didn't work. There were no further plans. There is not Nukular Bomb in a briefcase somewhere. Al Qaeda is a "seat of the pants" organization that gets an idea and then sees if they can make it work somehow....not a government with the "best minds" working on it.
by Temmoku on Wed Dec 12, 2007 at 08:07:39 AM PDT
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in using fear to cause us to do all that we've done. Ruined our reputation around the world, attacked a country and elevated Iran to the dominant power in the region, killed millions and thousands of our own, suspension of civil liberties.
Hell, they did it all WITHOUT an attack on the homeland. Mission accomplished.
by IndySteve on Wed Dec 12, 2007 at 08:13:56 AM PDT
never to be, but when I watch the "simulations" on tv I notice that the torturer will jiggle the cloth that covers the victim's nose and mouth, as he pours small amounts of water on it. I can only presume that this jiggling is to allow air to escape from the victim's passages thereby permitting the water to flow more easily into the victim's lungs. If I am right then it means that the modern application of this "technique" is very effective and terrifying!!
If you don't have an earth-shaking idea, get one, you'll love building a better world.
by hestal on Wed Dec 12, 2007 at 08:30:57 AM PDT
wide narrow
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