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he based his premise on the opinions of people from the Clinton and Obama campaigns, among other evidence.
Pretty well researched piece actually.
by david mizner on Wed Dec 05, 2007 at 12:06:51 PM PDT
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That's what I love about it. People can say its just "wishful thinking" but from what the competition has said privately, we know it's more than that. You can act like Obama and Hillary don't worry about Edwards, but you certainly wouldn't be correct. They have even admitted that he is a master orator, and his skills as a trial lawyer(and I say that with the utmost praise) are legendary. That's not something they take for granted, though they might publicly ridicule it, as Clinton does.
But there's proof; I have mentioned this before, but I'm going to show this again:
http://johnedwards.com/... Many have come to similar conclusions. Doug Schoen, until recently the partner of Clinton Master Strategist Mark Penn, concludes that Edwards would be the strongest general election candidate: "First, one naturally points to Edwards' southern roots. Since John F. Kennedy's victory in 1960, the only Democrats to win the Presidency were southern Democrats Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton. Second, Edwards--despite his current left wing rhetorical appeal--is actually perceived as more conservative than either Clinton or Obama. Overall, 44% perceive Edwards as liberal in comparison to 51% who perceive Obama as liberal and 57% who see Clinton in this way. By contrast, 13% characterize Edwards as conservative, compared to 8% who see Clinton and Obama in this way. Finally, Edwards at this point demonstrates the greatest appeal to Independents beating Giuliani by 13%. Obama wins Independents by 5% and Clinton wins them by 3% against Giuliani."
http://johnedwards.com/...
Many have come to similar conclusions. Doug Schoen, until recently the partner of Clinton Master Strategist Mark Penn, concludes that Edwards would be the strongest general election candidate: "First, one naturally points to Edwards' southern roots. Since John F. Kennedy's victory in 1960, the only Democrats to win the Presidency were southern Democrats Jimmy Carter and Bill Clinton. Second, Edwards--despite his current left wing rhetorical appeal--is actually perceived as more conservative than either Clinton or Obama. Overall, 44% perceive Edwards as liberal in comparison to 51% who perceive Obama as liberal and 57% who see Clinton in this way. By contrast, 13% characterize Edwards as conservative, compared to 8% who see Clinton and Obama in this way. Finally, Edwards at this point demonstrates the greatest appeal to Independents beating Giuliani by 13%. Obama wins Independents by 5% and Clinton wins them by 3% against Giuliani."
That makes it a little harder for HRC supporters to par off Edward's electability, which is far better than hers. So no matter what they say, the other campaigns do have Edwards to contend with, and they have all admitted that privately.
Edwards Democrat You better believe it!EENR Blog: Because the real issues of this race should matter.
by priceman on Wed Dec 05, 2007 at 12:57:24 PM PDT
had the lowest numbers in Iowa right now, because everybody knows that means you're actually going to win.
Hmmm.... does that mean Gravel is going to be the actual winner? Maybe Kucinich.
This talk of "John Edwards is actually going to win" reminds me of nothing so much as all the diaries saying "Gore is going to run."
Best wishes to all: I would gladly work, vote, and contribute to JRE in the general, but for some reason he's not connecting with voters. Maybe they want someone new.
by nicejoest on Wed Dec 05, 2007 at 02:13:42 PM PDT
That's the "some reason" his general poll numbers aren't higher. The other reason is that Hillary and Obama have garnered much more corporate money.
However, Edwards is doing well in Iowa where he has intimate contact with voters.
"It's the planet, stupid."
by FishOutofWater on Wed Dec 05, 2007 at 02:21:58 PM PDT
is all that is.
Edwards was at 2% and Kerry was at 4% in Iowa at this time last year.
This race won't be decided on poll numbers at all, for the dynamics are totally different this time. We have a primary where Edwards is competitive with Obama and HRC, when the media has written him off a long time ago.
So your analogy to Kucinich and Gravel is not apt.
And comparing a candidate that's not in the race and a candidate that took the # 2 spot in the last primary election(leading to picking him as VP) who is actually running, is not the same at all.
I'm glad to hear that, though. :)
Otherwise you would be wasting your time and money, sad to say IMO.
by priceman on Wed Dec 05, 2007 at 02:25:32 PM PDT
Yeeearghhh!
Pimp your ride, KOS!
by DrMicro on Wed Dec 05, 2007 at 03:10:43 PM PDT
Worst PR moment in a primary, ever. I'll give you that.
by priceman on Wed Dec 05, 2007 at 04:04:06 PM PDT
wide narrow
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