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be necessary in order to institute a sustainable substitute. i.e. consumerism must perish. It's hard to imagine a mass movement to give up the easy lifestyle.
Perhaps there is a crack in the status quo, as evidenced by the Jeremy Grantham letter. But the momentum of petro-imperialism is growing worse.
We know that we can't meet our energy needs sustainably, at current usage and population. We now foresee climate catastrophe for humanity.
The divisive, dumbed-down, hate-spewing media have conditioned American society to sloth and entitlement to consume without a thought about the impact on the planet. I don't foresee positive change prior to an actual crisis. Yet the crisis of hurricane Katrina did not evoke the kind of response necessary for survival, if that is the model. Even Dmitry Orlov is not hopeful.
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by Halcyon on Tue Feb 06, 2007 at 05:33:34 PM PDT
My thought about Katrina was that, even though the disaster was all out of proportion to the aid that arrived, it gave a new legitimacy to organizations such as the Common Ground collective and Food Not Bombs, which I think Joel would find "prefigurative"...
"Imagine all the people/ Sharing all the world" -- John Lennon
by Cassiodorus on Tue Feb 06, 2007 at 07:36:12 PM PDT
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summary. Yes, the collective grassroots efforts you name are great, and apparently also harassed by the local constabulary. The feds are neglecting New Orleans, waiting until their crony vultures are ready to snag up the best parcels and then claim government handouts to build pleasure domes. Katrina is the epitome of disaster capitalism.
gmoke posted a link to this prescient cartoon: 'survival tools'
People respond in different ways to crisis. They pitch in and help out, or panic and freeze up, or connive and steal. I perceive our culture having been shaped ever since 1981 into the latter as the normative. I don't expect other than small prefigurative groups to work out survival strategies in isolated locales, making do with what's left of our environment.
Capitalism will probably insist on committing suicide, taking the current ecosystem with it, rather than gracefully depositing itself in the dustbin of failed experiments in human organization.
I do appreciate your diaries, and the people and their ideas you present. The energy and optimism are amazing.
by Halcyon on Tue Feb 06, 2007 at 08:11:12 PM PDT
I guess I feel I can talk his vocabulary rather easily because he came to southern California three years ago, and gave a talk at a residence in Santa Monica. The people in attendance were very enthusiastic and offered all kinds of political initiatives at the discussion session thereafter.
by Cassiodorus on Tue Feb 06, 2007 at 08:17:24 PM PDT
Was the most horrifying and depressing thing that I've read in quite a long time. My word... we can't let this happen.
by MacheteJames on Tue Feb 06, 2007 at 08:02:45 PM PDT
Thriving in the Age of Collapse (Read in sequence; Parts 1 & 2 linked)
and,
Closing the 'Collapse Gap': the USSR was better prepared for peak oil than the US
Unless the current crew is impeached we will not be able to prepare for a soft landing. This diary does the best I've read at describing their plan: Let Me Explain What They Want; and explaining my pessimism. The 110th Congress has an awesome responsibility to oust the destroyers, but I don't think they understand this.
by Halcyon on Tue Feb 06, 2007 at 08:24:02 PM PDT
i can't believe i've never heard of Orlov - off to read ...
James Inhofe (R - Exxon): The greatest hoax ever perpetrated on the people of Oklahoma. - Eiron
by cookiebear on Wed Feb 07, 2007 at 06:44:10 AM PDT
wide narrow
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