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spin, you may be right. The diary title is over-the-top hyperbole, imho. For that reason, I won't recommend.
But there is no shred of proof that is 100% verifiable on anything that leaves Iraq by way of justification. All facts are in debate, as are all speculations.
It's speculation on how intensely Iran is involved in the machinations of Iraqi politics. Even the CIA admits this in the latest NIE.
As for the soldiers in Iraq - and regarding Fireshadow's asssertion of secret renditions, well, the Army, the soldiers were never technically involved in renditions, except to the extent that folks like Odierno's 4th ID captured dozens of Iraqis in a net and those were later transported to Guantanamo on the basis of no crime. So, no, I wouldn't personally speculate that the actual Army or the "regular" Marines would undertake an operation like this, if it were US generated.
The CIA might be a more interesting target of speculation - or any SpecOp group. Or any contractor group. Or a new branch of SpecOps which may have deployed within the last few weeks.
I don't want to believe that we, meaning the US, are in any way involved in this.
But there has been too much strange s**t going on inside the borders of Iraq on an almost daily/nightly basis. And the rhetoric seems routinely spaced and targeted each day with random breadcrumbs in the press about actions against Iranian saboteurs or accusations against Iranian agents and the intelligence community outside of the DoDInt doesn't appear with the same info that DoDInt seems to have.
So what do you make of it?
Good luck to you in July, btw.
"When Bigbad Shit come, no run scream hide. Try paint picture of it on wall. Drum to it. Sing to it. Dance to it. This give you handle on it." Kesey
by exmearden on Wed Feb 07, 2007 at 01:27:07 AM PDT
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since I'm not posting a diary anytime soon, that there is too much other evidence outside the regular Army that indicates massive buildup of forces - both US and possibly Canadian in support in the Persian Gulf and close by in the Indian.
It's no coincidence that a Navy man is now being confirmed as CENTCOM chief. Especially one who has done a lot of his graduate work overtime on US airstrike capabilities.
Meanwhile, the Bataan ESG is now in the Gulf from the Meditteranean. They have some previous history in that area, iirc...
Paranoid? Spin? Yes and no. If I were Army or a land-based Marine, I'd sleep with my helmet on. That is what I will be saying to my son-in-law soon. Again.
Those who cannot learn from history...and all that jazz.
by exmearden on Wed Feb 07, 2007 at 01:57:24 AM PDT
I freely admit that there is indeed strange happenings, we have reports that the Iranians are backing Shia militias.
True or not? Personally I can see it happening, but the government has yet to reveal public the reasons why. I do believe though the President is upping the posutre in the Middle East to serve as a warning to Iran and Syria against possible meddling.
If we did get involved in a conflict with Iran, it would be a war fought with aircraft, and long range missiles.
Anyway thanks for the comment, I will try my best in July.
Currently in the Army DEP program, will be sent to Ft. Benning come July.
by OblivionsPuppet on Wed Feb 07, 2007 at 02:13:14 AM PDT
From Military.com
The Air Force is increasing the number of personnel and aircraft in the Middle East to support the 21,500 ground troops joining the battle in Iraq as part of President Bush’s "surge" plan, the service’s chief strategist in the region tells Inside the Air Force. "We have increased our force posture in Iraq in anticipation of the surge," Lt. Col. Clint Hinote said in a Jan. 30 phone interview from the Air Force’s Combined Air Operations Center, located somewhere in Southwest Asia. The service does not disclose the exact location of the facility. "We’ve brought over more fighters to better provide overwatch for the ground units in Iraq," he said through a service spokeswoman in a Feb. 1 e-mail. "We’re also preparing to deploy more [intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance] assets to provide more information to ground ops. "We’re bringing over more tankers to meet the increased [operations], and we are flying our airlift assets at high capacity to move the huge amount of people and equipment," he added. "In addition to this, there’s the widely publicized deployment of two carrier strike groups to the [area of responsibility], which will further increase the air power footprint in theater."
The Air Force is increasing the number of personnel and aircraft in the Middle East to support the 21,500 ground troops joining the battle in Iraq as part of President Bush’s "surge" plan, the service’s chief strategist in the region tells Inside the Air Force.
"We have increased our force posture in Iraq in anticipation of the surge," Lt. Col. Clint Hinote said in a Jan. 30 phone interview from the Air Force’s Combined Air Operations Center, located somewhere in Southwest Asia. The service does not disclose the exact location of the facility.
"We’ve brought over more fighters to better provide overwatch for the ground units in Iraq," he said through a service spokeswoman in a Feb. 1 e-mail. "We’re also preparing to deploy more [intelligence, surveillance and reconnaissance] assets to provide more information to ground ops.
"We’re bringing over more tankers to meet the increased [operations], and we are flying our airlift assets at high capacity to move the huge amount of people and equipment," he added. "In addition to this, there’s the widely publicized deployment of two carrier strike groups to the [area of responsibility], which will further increase the air power footprint in theater."
hinc illae lacrimae
by coffeeinamrica on Wed Feb 07, 2007 at 03:29:27 AM PDT
Why doesn't Bush have contractors or CIA personnel occupy the entire Iranian Embassy in Baghdad and hold its diplomats hostage for a few years? That'll show the Great Iranian Satan!
by LanceBoyle on Wed Feb 07, 2007 at 04:33:21 AM PDT
being posited metaphorically may actually be spot on. The more one learns about the Bushes, the more difficult it becomes to discount the "coincidences". People refer to Bush as a facist metaphorically but the family has long ties to the "real deal" which has been very much active since WW2. Mostly though Italian intel and P2 connections. Granpa, Prescott Bush financed the Nazi war machine. Here's an example where G.H. Bush subverted the 1979 election cycle: Bush 31
What I found interesting was the Niger forged documents (Plamegate) have been linked to the same Italian operatives through Michael Ledeen whose name keeps popping up whenever some nefarious black ops appear involved. Ledeen works very closely to Bush and Cheney in this Whitehouse.
"I count him braver who overcomes his desires than him who conquers his enemies; for the hardest victory is over self." --Aristotle
by java4every1 on Wed Feb 07, 2007 at 06:24:45 AM PDT
wide narrow
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