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  •  Life is about (0+ / 0-)

    Life is about choices.   Thinking you can have it all is a myth IMHO.

    Generals gathered in their masses Just like witches at black masses.. Evil minds that plot destruction Sorcerers of deaths construction..........

    by pissedpatriot on Mon Mar 26, 2007 at 12:35:54 PM PDT

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      ps, I am all for the stuff you mentioned. I think americans work entirely too much.  I still think howvere people have to realize that such life altering decisions such as having kids does have sacrifices.

      Generals gathered in their masses Just like witches at black masses.. Evil minds that plot destruction Sorcerers of deaths construction..........

      by pissedpatriot on Mon Mar 26, 2007 at 12:38:13 PM PDT

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    •  sure, but why such stark choices? (0+ / 0-)

      Why should the choice be career OR family? Clearly, having kids is going to slow down my work productivity for a time, but why should it be the death knell of my entire career?

      by heartofblue on Mon Mar 26, 2007 at 12:43:29 PM PDT

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      •  choices (0+ / 0-)

        life just doesn't allow you to be two places at once. Kids aren't a hobby, they change EVERYTHING. SO unfortunately if you have to raise a family, and a fellow researcher doesn't, they have an advanatge with regard to career.  That is just life.

        Generals gathered in their masses Just like witches at black masses.. Evil minds that plot destruction Sorcerers of deaths construction..........

        by pissedpatriot on Mon Mar 26, 2007 at 02:19:03 PM PDT

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        •  Again, why does it have to be all or nothing? (0+ / 0-)

          It is one thing to have a career advantage because you devoted everything to your career, it is another thing for it to be systematically impossible to both succeed in your career and have a family.

          These problems are solvable, this diary is about some of the solutions.

          by heartofblue on Mon Mar 26, 2007 at 02:23:05 PM PDT

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        •  Only if you're a girl (0+ / 0-)

          Seriously. Men with kids get tenure more often than men without kids.

          Why exactly is it that we can't find a way to accomodate women who want to have children and be great scientists?

          The idea that children are just a distraction from being a great scientist is just dead wrong. On the contrary, there's nothing quite like having your own living, breathing neurobiology experiment 24/7 to give you fresh insights as to how the brain works and how the body works and how the world around you works.

          I agree you can't be in two places at once. But there's no reason women shouldn't be able to have their children and then put in their time in the lab and still be eligible for tenure at a slightly older age.

          Fry, don't be a hero! It's not covered by our health plan!

          by elfling on Mon Mar 26, 2007 at 10:13:02 PM PDT

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