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by anastasia p on Wed Apr 11, 2007 at 03:30:47 PM PDT
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they just counted up all the incidents of human rights abuse they knew of, and then counted how many were perpetrated by Israel and how many by the Palestinans.
I haven't the study so I'm jsut guessing here, but that would appear to be a sensible way of going about it.
The Heathlander
by heathlander on Wed Apr 11, 2007 at 03:36:21 PM PDT
in Russia under Stalin.
Look...the flat damned truth is that all sides in this conflict have been acting like idiots for a long time and their preferred MO is to stand in a circle and point at each other and claim that everyone else is awful and their cause is pure.
Until they get out of that mode, things won't change. As witness Ireland, it can take a long time before everyone gets tired of the endless circle of accusation and recrimination and retaliations and finally sits down and talks things out and finds a solution.
The sad situation is that if you lay the Jewish and Muslim faiths next to each other, they aren't that far apart. Trouble is, everyone is too angry to act like adults.
Free markets would be a great idea, if markets were actually free.
by dweb8231 on Wed Apr 11, 2007 at 03:56:28 PM PDT
"the flat damned truth is that all sides in this conflict have been acting like idiots for a long time"
Well, perhaps. But it's also true that there is no symmetry in the conflict - Israel has committed war crimes and terrorist acts on a far wider scale than anything the Palestinian have commited. Which makes sense, since Israel is vastly more powerful. Then there's the asymmetry of the occupiers vs. the occupied, the aggressors vs. those fighting in self-defence.
"The sad situation is that if you lay the Jewish and Muslim faiths next to each other, they aren't that far apart."
I don't think one should look to religion to explain political problems. Religion plays, at best, the role of 'symptom' in this conflict.
by heathlander on Wed Apr 11, 2007 at 04:08:59 PM PDT
Israel has committed more war crimes and acts of terrorism?
right.
by redcardphreek on Wed Apr 11, 2007 at 04:14:29 PM PDT
take last year, for example: during the course of Operation Summer Rains, Israel killed many times more Palestinians than vice versa, and was accused by NGOs over systematically failing to distinguish between civilians and combatants and of perpetrating outright war crimes (e.g. the targetting of the power station).
That's forgetting the fact that all violence carried out by Israel against the Palestinians is illegitimate, because it is perpetrated in the course of an occupation, an aggression.
by heathlander on Wed Apr 11, 2007 at 04:22:21 PM PDT
wide narrow
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